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A night of conversation across the nation


Posted on the campaign blog , April 30th, 2008
On April 29, over 350 local groups of Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians met in cafes, pubs, community halls and living rooms across the nation to begin a conversation of turning reconciliation into reconcili-action.

Sharing stories was the focus of the night, with experiences and understanding crucial aspects of the discussions that took place.

We encourage you to share your experiences on how your GetTogethers went and the feelings and discussions that emerged out of them in the blog below.

Thanks for being part of the solution.
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Here's a summary of one of the Sydney GetTogethers.

At the Waverley Bowling Club in Sydney over 50 of us gathered to share our stories and reasons for attending as well as our hopes and aspirations for a reconciled Australia.

Allan Madden, a local Gadigal Elder kicked off the night with a welcome to country and hosts Ed and Krystal started the conversation.

A key theme that seem to emerge from the night was of Australia's attitude towards its Indigenous people compared to the rest of the world. Examples from Canada, New Zealand and South Africa were discussed and Australia, despite its 'developed' international status was deemed to be lagging far behind in terms of the status, respect and understanding of Indigenous people on both a community and governmental level.

People discussed the energy, hope and reinvigoration felt from the apology followed by the uncertainty of what to do next and what follows 'sorry'.
The subtlety of racism and power that it still holds over modern Australia was talked about including the reality of coming to terms with our history and moving on from being a 'country of denial'.

As one attendee noted, the three key aspects to come out of our Waverley GetTogether were education, influence and respect - all of which were necessary to move forward together as a community and nation.

Stories were shared and emotions were heartfelt. The evening ended with music from local band the Happy Hippies as well as Redfern Aboriginal guitarist Leroy Cummins and his mother Marlene who performed a rousing song called 'the pension day blues'.

Last night was much more than just a conversation, it was a coming together of people united around an issue that we as Australians are still struggling to come to terms with. It was an important step to move forward together on the road towards reconciliation in Australia.

Ed and Krystal are keen to take this first meeting further and meet again to work out how we as a local community as well as part of the wider population can work together, Indigenous and non-Indigenous, to continue our conversations and work together towards reconciliation.

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Ali
April 30th, 2008

My gathering was small but the energy and desire for real change was palpable. As a group we discussed ways of engaging with the local Aboriginal community, that as a nation we are still grappling with our history, to the point of denial. Whilst "Sorry" was wonderful this required formal recognition, through Treaty and Constitutional change. It would be great to see Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander history and culture taught in schools from Kindergarten to Year 12 (Compulsory). I gave one member a copy of Carpenteria By Alexis Wright and this will be discussed at our next meeting. The Group will be meeting again in June. One way of learning (to better inform ourselves and each other) is reading works by Indigenous authors, providing us with a new way of learning about how we all fit within the social fabric of Australia from a black perspective. As an Indigenous woman of Torres Strait Islander descent, I was incredibly proud to host last night's event and honored to meet such a fantastic group of people committed to putting the ACT back into Activism.

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Hanoi
April 30th, 2008

Our event was also small, but not bad considering we're not even in Australia. I orignally heard about it through a 'cause page' on Facebook (Blackbook - look it up, its good). There has a happy, vibrant atmosphere at our GetTogether and EVERYONE talked about the positive effects of the apology. Sadly, people didn't have any ideas for future steps. Now that there has been an apology we need to keep the momentum up, and community-based activities such as last night is a great way to keep people talking. For mine, the next step is social justice - an apology means little if it isn't followed by appropriate, coordinated, inclusive policies to reduce infant mortality, provide education to remote areas, raise life expectancy and the gammit of other social issues we face. Let's keep up the pressure mob!

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Catherne van Wilgenburg
April 30th, 2008

Sign Up for Yarraville 3013. From Host Catherine van Wilgenburg
It was great to greet someone I had never met and spend a night sharing our desires for a better life for indigenous Australians. And it got better when my friend Vivienne, an indigenous artist from Gympie Queensland arrived with her granddaughter Crystal, a Wurunjeri woman born here in Melbourne.
She had been a last minute invite and I was thrilled when she fronted.
Welcome
Gradually our group of eleven trickled with their meat for the BBQ on the brazier in our small backyard. We started eating and began with sharing about the two thousand people throughout Australia doing exactly what we were at the same time! As there were two apologies I reported some of the phone comments they had wanted mentioned at the meeting and the most poignant I thought was from Carol Reed who said
‘I don’t know what to do. Who do we invite into our home? Yes I write letters to the paper and I really want a better Australia than before – I want a better life for our indigenous people. There are wonderful role models but we don’t see them. If I was to sit in the red earth with an aboriginal woman in the Centre I am sure we would want the same thing – an education for our children and health care. I am 74 now and I want to leave behind better treatment of our indigenous people.

Acknowledgement of country
We asked 18 year old Crystal to give a Welcome to Country which Vivienne couldn’t as she isn’t Wurunjeri, the local clan of the Kulin nation . We all acknowledged how privileged we were to have Vivienne and Crystal with us, as we found it hard to imagine what the night may have been like discussing Reconciliation without any indigenous person present!

Our Stories
We each shared how we came to be passionate about Reconciliation -
several from travels and work experience in northern or inland aboriginal communities as well as in Paua New Guinea. Two were from New Zealand and spoke of their embarrassment about Australia’s regressive attitudes to her indigenous peoples in comparison to the Maoris. The emphasis on how language in NZ is more inclusive of Maori thinking and phraseology became a bit of a theme throughout the evening, with many references to the need for Aboriginal languages to be taught and kept alive in the daily lives of people because language is the basis of all cultures. Many of us spoke of an awakening of a new self consciousness after living in other cultures especially in indigenous cultures, which raises awareness of the inadequacies of our own culture. Crystal spoke of her experiences of growing up in Glen Waverley as the exotic ‘abo’ girl but at the same time being taught the culture by her grandmother Vivienne. In spite of feeling she had been well treated she is trying to get back into study to become a lawyer as she realises that many of her people have not been treated as she has.
Vivienne chose to speak last and share her story of being born in the lagoons of Gympie and hearing the stories from her grandmother, a woman who taught her to respect all races. She spoke of the slave labour in the pineapple and sugar cane fields from the age of 8, and the connection she felt with the stars. We all listened intently as she spoke of her tears of joy when Kevin Rudd said Sorry and how she had waited for this all her life. Vivienne’s dream like that of her grandmother was for all of us to live in harmony and to respect our differences.

Our Community Our Country
We were well represented by people from local government, housing group, arts community, community development. Lots of useful networking happened
leading to practical solutions which were suggested for further action.
We all wanted to meet again but the next time was in amore public venue at an event in Naidoc Week or at storytelling events where the language and the
Stories can be told by our local storytellers around a fire. It was suggested that the Stones Project fireplace and stone sculptures near the Maribyrnong River close to the Living Museum of the West could be a good site. We decided that we would approach Peter Haffenden at the Living Museum of the West and Maribyrnong Council, the Elders at the Gathering Place, and all the people present to spread the word to get such an event moving. It was felt that this could be a great beginning to listen and learn stories, the basis of culture and acknowledgement of indigenous culture. This is the start of a new era we felt where we could speak out more freely and be heard. The Reconciliation Circles of the 1980s were remembered but we want the mistakes our white forefathers and mothers made to the indigenous peoples written into the history books. We want a black history visible in the streets of Melbourne in addition to the white history we see.
We want to see a two sided history told to our kids in schools and written into the school curricula. We want the basic human rights for all indigenous people written into our laws and we want to be able to develop connections with our local indigenous communities. We acknowledged that many indigenous people remain invisible and we want heal the wounds, through our individual actions in our workplaces, in our own homes and families and in our schools.
We want to take individual action and each spoke about their involvement in housing, heritage, cultural events, indigenous plants and local nurseries, Eco centres, indigenous education centres and school indigenous storytelling visits.



Our Song At the end of the meeting we heard the song on the laptop but a copy of the CD would have been better. I intended to get Sam McLean to email the song but time ran out and I didn’t send him the email address after our tele-conference.

Local Press
I have a photo I can send but it doesn’t include everyone as some went before I got round to taking it! If you’re one of the early departures I hope you don’t mind not being in the local paper.
I look forward to getting the Press Release format from Get UP.

Wrap Up
We agreed to all go to the Naidoc Week events and to work to support a Storytelling event at the Stones site close to the Living Museum of the West.
Nicola Pickworth is assisting with whatever is needed and Roisin will spread the word of our meetings and events
Vivienne and Catherine will paint together and see what comes out of very different ways of working but an enjoyment of being together and telling our stories!!



Comments about GET UP
As a host of a Reconciliation Get Up I am so impressed with the formatted approach to holding the nigh at my place. I was supported throughout the process with regular emails about who had RSVPd . it was easy to say hi to those signing up and a wonderful opportunity to meet with fellow traveller on the Reconciliation trail. Thank you all so much for your great support and I look forward to more.

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judy bourke from Thirroul NSW
May 1st, 2008

judy's GetTogether
It's just so great to feel part of the whole country united in the same conversation at the one time!! how amazing!!

Between the mountains and the sea, on the east coast of Australia, south of Sydney a group of 13 people made two groups to listen to each other and have a chat over few nibblies and a drink. We were mostly unknown to each other until the night. We did not have any indigenous people in our group but many of us work with or have contact with the local indigenous people at sometime.
We were a group of people some who have experience in local activism, of all ages, many who are or have been connected to the university, have been or are now working with indigenous people.
some thoughts on the night.
The aboriginal people in our community are mostly from many areas of Australia and there is no single voice.
We recognise the vast life experiences and the wide range of indigenous people in our area from the very well educated and happy to the abused and struggling in our community.
Racism still exists in our area especially in the rental market.
My dream is that we wouldn't be able to identify any group by their death rate, health problems, connection with the justice system or child sexual assault victims.
stolen/missing generations
There is a whole generation of indigenous people in some areas completely missing and the young ones are struggling to negotiate their place in both communities.
Aim
to work towards creation of a treaty between indigenous and non indigenous Australia- to be able to negotiate on equal terms in order to reach reconciliation.
to Create
an indigenous council with constitutional status to provide self determination on indigenous matters as part of the Australian parliament.
National Education
Introducing cultural awareness education throughout all levels of schooling, in order to change the story and language surrounding aboriginal affairs.
To support any efforts to encourage indigenous women to get the best of appropriate education to the highest level possible.
For us to do
Provide more opportunities for participation in the wider community.
Starting with us
Continue to converse with the racist and ignorant Australia, even if they are our relatives.
To keep the converstion going...
There is a northern illawarra reconciliation group that meets regularly.
The South Side Festival will be held around Coomaditchie lagoon soon.
The women of WIK meet regularly.
There will be an indigenous writers festival held at the South Coast Writers Festival soon.
Suggested reading, Dancing with the Strangers by Inge Clendiggen

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Jacj
May 1st, 2008

The abiding memory of more than 30 people who stayed nearly an hour later than the scheduled close of Barney’s Get Together in Charnwood will be of all of us –indigenous and non-indigenous Australians holding hands in a big circle and singing together the new reconciliation anthem – “From little things, Big Things Grow”.We did not quite answer the question, “Where to from here” but there was a strong sense of people wanting to meet again, to continue our conversations, to go forward and to make a better world - free of racism and discrimination - for our children and grandchildren. It was about being honest, facing our history, and moving on as proud Australians. As one of our indigenous guests said, "we are the ancestors of tomorrow".

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Ralph
May 1st, 2008

Our group was a very nice size: 6 adults and 4 kids. The evening was filled in very easily hearing each other's stories and chatting about experiences of Aboriginality. In fact there was so much chatting we had to cut it short so we could see and hear the (fantastic) GetUp Mob song and discuss press releases. We found we had so much to talk about and so much we wanted to do, we agreed to meet again, but this time in a park on a Saturday so the kids can run around.

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Matthew Daniels
May 1st, 2008

I attended a GETUP night in DENILIQUIN on tuesday night there were about 20 of us, we spoke about numerous issues involving Indigenous people within Australia I think alot of good things come out of it and the feed was great to HAHA!!!. But in all seriousness I think events like this need to happen more. We need to get all Australians in the same frame of mind and finally realise that assimilation for Indigenous people is not the key for a better future for OUR PEOPLE. Consultation, Acknowledgement, Understanding & the most important thing of them all RESPECT needs to be addressed and seen in order for our country to move on from the past and heal & fix the past injustices that our nations first peoples experienced back in the past. THANKYOU

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clare cleary
May 1st, 2008

Eight adults, mostly strangers, kicked off the night at Gerroa Boat Fisherman's Club with personal stories of reconciliation. The attendees were from varied professional backgrounds and each had interesting views and ideas to share. I was thrilled with the honesty, as differences created an opportunity to think outside the square.
Respect, education, health and opportunities were deemed necessary for a unified Australia. Also the recognition by non-Indigenous Australians, of the wisdom & knowledge possessed by Aboriginal Australians.In a time of global warming and other destruction, could we not learn from their ways. Good things are happening but we must keep up the momentum as Indigenous and non-Indigenous walk together.
Time passed quickly and all agreed it had been a great discussion and attendees would like to meet again.By the way others in the club asked what we had been discussing upstairs! This gave us another opportunity to spread the word!
Well done to Sam and all his merry organizers!

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Claudette
May 1st, 2008

Our gathering was small but very significant and the story sharing was very valuable and enlightening. We left with a greater appreciation of each person and their journey towards reconciliation. We were assured by the Aboriginal Australians at our meeting that NAIDOC celebrations are for all Australians and that we would be most welcome to join with them in the celebrations. For us this will be a real opportunity to show solidarity and extend understanding and communication. We discussed some quite serious and important issues as well and some actions will be taken, but the most significant out-come will be a greater appreciation of one another.

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Cate B
May 1st, 2008

We had a small gathering of eight adults, one teen and one child where everyone had their say and all agreed that it is at this grass roots level that things need to be done to improve the situation. We ended the night feeling a bit more positive about the future and all agreeing that we should meet again with each of us trying to get more people involved

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Kerry from The Ecovillage at Currumbin
May 1st, 2008

A group of 25 people shared their stories and emotions freely and safely.
Highlights of the evening included one of our friends sharing his experience of being a white youth growing up in Emerald. His best friend was indigenous as well as many other of his friends at school and one day he arrived at school and there were no aboriginal children present - they never came back and none of the white kids in the school knew anything about where they had gone. He was a personal witness to the Stolen Generation. The story quietened the room.

We had a couple of people who delve into the spiritual realm and they assured us that there were aboriginal 'presences' with us in the room on the night. Their messages were: build trust and respect and just understand. This is all that is needed to move forward.

Some people had experienced no indigenous relationships, others had met one or two aboriginal people, some had enjoyed personal friendships and even family relationships. The one binding thing though was that EVERYBODY was there to take a greater message out to the wider community, to stop racial prejudice, to reconcile differences.

It was an awesome night here in Currumbin.

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David
May 1st, 2008

Our group discussed the need to reach out to each other, and at least if we don't do anything positive, do no harm in terms of our attitudes. As a result of hosting the get together, I saw an Aboriginal man who I had seen around but never spoken to before. He had lost both his legs yet did not think he had suffered as much as some of the old people he knew. He felt the response to the lost wages issue was not good enough. I was inspired by this man.

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Philippa Goodbourn
May 1st, 2008

At Verdun Uniting Church Community in the Adelaide Hills over 30 people gathering for the Reconciliation GetTogether. Lyn Forbes, a member of the Stolen Generation accepted our invitation to tell her story and her daughters Cassie and Tarni and her grandson Ryan came with her. Lyn's story moved the audience and a lively and thought-provoking conversation followed. Many people stayed on for supper and informal conversations following the program. The audience very much appreciated Lyn's presence because she 'made it real for them'. Tears were shed, feelings of guilt and shame were shared, new friends made and much hope for the future was expressed. Lyn stated that the feeling of hope she had from being 'really listened to' was profound and she was 'standing taller' as a result of the Parliamentary Apology and this follow-up event.

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Virginia Newell
May 1st, 2008

What a great evening we had in Adamstown. Ten of us got together to talk reconciliation. One of the reoccurring themes of the night was the need to move towards reconciliation by educating the communities in which we live and by providing better educational opportunities for Indigenous kids. A great group of people and great discussion!

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Robert Blumenthal
May 1st, 2008

At our GetTogether at Penrith NSW 12 people attended.

The group shared some interesting personal stories. One which stood out was told to us by Lee, about growing up in south-west Sydney and “being too white to be black but too black to be white” and the fact that he became interested in discovering more about his indigenous culture, only to find that in urban Sydney, it had virtually disappeared. He politely expressed the thought that white culture had done a great job of killing off his culture. Lee also expressed the idea of founding a new culture for people that felt like him, looking to the future rather than the past.

A quick summary of some of the ideas put forward:

1. Future GetTogethers - We would like to GetTogether again in about 6 weeks time,
2. Aims - The group would like to establish a set of aims, some ideas put forward were:
(i)Political activism - write down some ideas for campaigns, continue to support Get Up campaigns
(ii)Community support
(iii)Cultural Support
(iv)Support of indigenous sporting organisations

Moving forward - there was general discussion about things we could do looking to the future:
(i)Existing groups - Investigate what existing groups there are in Western Sydney with similar aims.
(ii)Culture and History - Investigate what literature, movies or other material is available to learn more about Indigenous culture and share it with the group
(iii)Reaching out in the local area - Find out about community, cultural, or sporting events in the local area aimed at indigenous people that could be supported by attending or other means. Approach local aboriginal elders or groups to see if they would like to attend future Get Togethers and help us understand their issues or aims
(iv)A new culture - Build on Lee's ideas of a new culture
(v)Urban development - Investigate what effect local building developments are having on indigenous cultural sites in the area
(vi)Information distribution - share any information within the group via email list
(vii)Venue - Investigate alternative venues for future Get Togethers, the Red Cow Inn was ok, but a little noisy. Seemed to be consensus that any venue should be open, so others can find it easy to join in if they want

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First Priority !
May 1st, 2008

i hope you all discussed the need to get rid of the name aborigine and the name australia...its the obvious next step forward...both those foreign names are literally killing us all...!!!

i never migrated to australia to become australian...and no foreigners have any right to expect me to be australian or aborigine...!!!

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Gail Dawson
May 1st, 2008

A group of 12 met in Rangeway, Geraldton WA:Geraldton GetTogether for Reconciliation

The Geraldton GetTogether was held in Rangeway and attended by members of the Yamatji and Bunarong people, with non-Indigenous Australians from Geraldton, Perth and Mount Magnet.

The meeting began with a formal Acknowledgement of Country to show respect to the traditional custodians of the land on which Geraldton is founded. The presence of Aboriginal elders Aunty Olive Boddington and Aunty Margaret Raven, as well as representatives of both local and distant Aboriginal groups, enabled the beginnings of a conversation about the importance of paying our respects to the original owners of the land and recalling Australia’s Aboriginal history, an acknowledgement beyond mere symbolism.

The sharing of personal stories was both moving and enlightening. Participants spoke of the difficulties of growing up in a culture that privileges some and not others and the impact that this ongoing injustice has on both black and white Australians. Older Yamatji guests spoke of a world where they were moved from place to place and just worked hard and did their best. Raised in large families or in missions, they recalled good times as well as harsh restrictions, such as the inequity of the ‘black book’, the document that gave Aboriginal people Australian citizenship only if they renounced their Aboriginal heritage and extended family. Another guest traced her motivation to work for reconciliation to the impact of learning of her father’s losses during the Holocaust, in which 6 million Jews were systematically murdered. Some guests spoke of their experiences working in the justice system and the particular issues attached to the high rate of Aboriginal incarceration in Western Australia, where 80% of the youths in detention are Aboriginal although making up only 4% of the total population. Others spoke of the struggle to maintain connections with their Aboriginality as young people’s hope for the future was swamped by despair and anger and interrupted by alcohol and substance abuse.

White Australian participants reminisced of joyful, wonderful encounters with Aboriginal people from all over Australia, the sheer pleasure of sharing food and laughter, an exchange of friendship in a moment when colour did not matter. For some, these moments had formed part of their childhood, while for others the opportunity arose from their work with Aboriginal people. One participant, raised in South Africa and now a Geraldton local, spoke of similar experiences with African people, including the Bushmen, musing on how these childhood experiences had led to a lifelong fascination with the commonalities and the differences of culture. Both Aboriginal and white participants held these special memories of days in the bush talking, laughing and learning from each other, and there was solid agreement that somewhere within this exchange of friendship and knowledge was the access to reconciliation.

To close the meeting, participants spoke of their vision for a reconciled Australia, a country where Australians worked together, learning together and creating a new respect for the land and nature that will ensure our future. Education and Health systems were seen as key areas of action, a vision unfolding of Aboriginal teachers and medical staff working alongside their white and Asian colleagues, accelerating the closure of the gap of current Aboriginal disadvantage. Most urgently, participants spoke of the need for white Australians to stop talking and listen to Aboriginal people; and in their listening acknowledge another world of wisdom about Australia and what is possible as a reconciled nation.

Following the 1967 referendum that signalled the end of ‘special treatment’ for Aboriginal people, H. C. ‘Nugget’ Combs was asked to make recommendations to guide the Commonwealth implementation of their new powers. His recommendations are recorded in his book ‘Kulinma: Listening to Aboriginal Australians (1978). Kulinma means ‘keep listening’ and Nugget and his colleagues listened patiently and with open minds to what Aboriginal people said to each other and to whites, before urging other Australians to do the same if Australia was to end the cruelty and indifference that had characterised white Australian attitudes towards Aboriginal people. Thirty years later, the Geraldton GetTogether for Reconciliation called once again for Australians to listen to the voices of Aboriginal Australians, so that all the knowledge and wisdom of our amazing country is available to us as we create our children’s future.

The group is meeting again on Tuesday 3 June at 7 pm, at the St John’s Parish Hall in Rangeway, to continue the conversations and actions for reconciliation. Participants committed to bringing a friend, particularly young and Aboriginal people, and to submitting an agenda item for the next meeting.

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Brad Homewood
May 1st, 2008

We met upstairs at a restaurant in Williamstown ( Victoria ), although it was a small group of people ( 13- 14 ) it was intimate and very sincere, we all shared our storys which were as interesting as they were diverse and everybody expressed a desire to meet again in the future.
One thing that was universal throughout the night was the frustration of never being taught anything about Australias
indigenous culture at school, or about the litany of injustices the indigenous people have endured since white settlement.
We talked about the importance of a treaty but not until some measurable progress had been made as the group felt it was important to get the balance right between symbolism and action, we talked also about the importance of re-establishing a peak body for indigenous people as we believe
they must have a voice in Canberra, adequate funding for health and education to Close the Gap and recognition of traditional place names when it comes to signage ( for example " welcome to Williamstown / Bunurong country ").

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Lyn Leerson
May 1st, 2008

Many particpants expressed gratitude for a breath of fresh air coming from the new government and were clear that the PM's Apology needed follow-up, through new policies and implementation. People saw that a widespread grass roots effort of local people was also needed for creating a culture of understanding and openness. The Indigenous people present as well as others were deeply troubled by the pain inflicted on Aboriginal people through the ages and the effects of that today. Many expressed that Australians still don't know the full extent of mistreatment and oppression while others are only just becoming aware of Aboriginal life stories. Some participants spoke of a generation of concern and that change is not only inevitable but is now actually happening. Aboriginal people have entered into fields of health, sports, arts, law, environment and business and are making a great contribution. How much more could happen if we put our political and personal will to achieve further and lasting changes. All Australia would benifit from it; the people, the history and the land.
In part of the evening we viewed a new DVD producing by Sydney Catchment Authority, which shows how Aboriginal people in Western Sydney care for the land and how they feel about themselves and the land. We were struck by the deep connections they saw among the Aboriginal people and the land and and their strong concern for passing the caring for land and the culture to the younger generations.
Participants expressed hope that a growing invironmental awareness would support a climate of openess towards learning more from Aboriginal people and forming a respectful relationships that honour culture and land. As one of the elders said in the DVD 'the land is all we have and all we need. Plants and animals can live without us but we human certainly need them'. This group felt that the general concern for the environment and climate was an excellent way for the broader community to connect with the Indigenous community and for us to learn to care for country.
For more details on further events or how you can get involved please contact Lyn Leerson 9639 8394 or lynlew@optusnet.com.au.



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Anne
May 1st, 2008

I met with 22 others at Old Toongabbie for the Conversation night on 29th. It was my introduction to this group even though I have been a member of Rconciliation Australia for probably 15 years. A recognition to respect the country where we were meeting (Dharrug) was made by an elder from another country. After some conversation and " getting to know others" we had an absorbing video presentation by two Catchment Officers Indigenous from Sydney Metrop Catchment Management Authority. It was so "cool" to observe a room full of mainly non-indigenous people being taught by these two women who answered our questions and filled in the gaps. Words like hope, spirituality, and feelings to make the Apology by our Prime Minister to be the beginning of truly united Australian citizens. Congrats GetUp for the idea!

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Joanna
May 1st, 2008

Last night at the instigation of the Getup organization, we were a small but passionate group of five total strangers, who met together at a popular local cafe in North Canberra and talked non stop for two and a half hours.

From the beginning, after the initial signup, it seemed the conversation was on fire and needed little prompting. One person who attended, a regular smoker, said that her interest was so great that she didn't get up once to have a cigarette! I think we could have kept talking on, however the practicalities of children and having to work the next day, called us to leave.

We started by reading the welcome text, and an acknowledgement of meeting on Ngnunnawal land, and then we all shared our stories. I think it was great to have the agenda from Getup, though I think we could have talked ceaselessly without it, the Getup agenda bought focus to the group and gave it direction, that was my experience.

A comment from one member of the group, 'We have to do this together' (Aboriginal and non Aboriginal), and a lot of mistrust and separation between Aboriginal and other Australians comes form a lack of 'knowing about the other'. This lead to discussions about how education is one of the most important (apart from Health), issues that needs to be addressed in righting the wrongs of the past and moving forward together. On a practical level, one of the participants last night stated that he would like to start putting his ideas about education in a proposal format, so possibly we could look at that again at another meeting. Everyone expressed interest in meeting again, and we discussed coming together on May 26th, National Sorry Day, to watch the DVD and continue the conversation we began last night.

Another comment from one of the group last night, was 'This is the single most important issue for this country, and 'none of us who live in Australia, can truly move forward until we truly and adequately address this'.

It was a great night and discussion and a simple and great idea from Getup, thankyou!

Sincerely, Joanna












Last night at the instigation of the Getup organization, we were a small but passionate group of five total strangers, who met together at a popular local cafe in North Canberra and talked non stop for two and a half hours.

From the beginning, after the initial signup, it seemed the conversation was on fire and needed little prompting. One person who attended, a regular smoker, said that her interest was so great that she didn't get up once to have a cigarette! I think we could have kept talking on, however the practicalities of children and having to work the next day, called us to leave.

We started by reading the welcome text, and an acknowledgement of meeting on Ngnunnawal land, and then we all shared our stories. I think it was great to have the agenda from Getup, though I think we could have talked ceaselessly without it, the Getup agenda bought focus to the group and gave it direction, that was my experience.

A comment from one member of the group, 'We have to do this together' (Aboriginal and non Aboriginal), and a lot of mistrust and separation between Aboriginal and other Australians comes form a lack of 'knowing about the other'. This lead to discussions about how education is one of the most important (apart from Health), issues that needs to be addressed in righting the wrongs of the past and moving forward together. On a practical level, one of the participants last night stated that he would like to start putting his ideas about education in a proposal format, so possibly we could look at that again at another meeting. Everyone expressed interest in meeting again, and we discussed coming together on May 26th, National Sorry Day, to watch the DVD and continue the conversation we began last night.

Another comment from one of the group last night, was 'This is the single most important issue for this country, and 'none of us who live in Australia, can truly move forward until we truly and adequately address this'.

It was a great night and discussion and a simple and great idea from Getup, thankyou!

Sincerely, Joanna












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Amy Burchett
May 2nd, 2008

At the 'Paraparap GetTogether' in Darwin we were all naturally very sympathetic to the spirit of reconciliation and had quite a diverse group of 11 people with a broad range of perspectives.

The main issue raised was the need for REAL dialogue and consultation. We discussed how our education system could play a greater role in developing cross-cultural understandings, especially through the teaching of Indigenous Languages. Such skilled people would be able to embark on a prestigious career working with Indigenous communities becoming advisors to policy makers and business - evidently in partnership with Indigenous Community leaders. Another important idea was the facilitation and creation of spaces where Indigenous people can be in the position of teachers within our community, eg organised GetTogethers on the beach, collecting shellfish and sharing stories. There were many other pertinent issues raised on the night and some really insightful anecdotes shared. Without expending too much energy going through it all, I just want to acknowledge everyone's intelligent and sincere contributions. I was particularly impressed that the dynamic remained so positive throughout the evening.

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Cathy Pace
May 2nd, 2008

We were a group of 9, including an indigneous woman from Tasmania, and unfortunately had 7 last minute cancellations yet it was still a lovely worthwhile evening with many ideas and stories shared amongst the group.
The main reason for being there centred around thoughts of injustice, compassion, the learning we could all share from people who are so vitally connected to the land and we all had a deep desire to see black and white brought together as one people, one country.
None of us had the answers to the many deep rooted problems but we acknowledged that the first thing needed is an attitudinal change. We were realistic enough to know that changing values, attitudes and beliefs would be a long process and most believed it has already started, albeit in a small way. Talking tonight then talking within our communities is a great start.
There were a lot of ideas put forward, including school exchanges between black and white children; Tindale's map should be recognized in our electoral system; the reintroduction of talking circles, etc. We agreed education was a vital and necessary tool to be used at all levels of society to change attitudes, rebutt myths.
The fact that thousands of people across the country were meeting to talk about reconciliation gave us hope because a problem hidden is an insoluble problem and one which makes us less as a nation. We all wanted wholeness and peace among people. (Sandgate Group)

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Allan & Michael
May 2nd, 2008

Nineteen people from our small community were inspired by the reconciliation conversation that was held in Scotts Head. We all joined in on the sharing of stories tahat highlighted the reason for saying "Sorry", the things that need to be reconciled and possible local projects for promoting reconciliation into the future.
Our community is fortunate in having an indigenous athletics coach (Ritchie Donovan) who through dedication and a passionate belief in what he's doing, has progressed through many challenges to become a widely recognised role model for indigenous and non-indigenous people, especially youth with with an interest in athletics. Ritchie is now a key player in the Australian Sports Commission's "Jump start to London 2012", conducting indigenous athletics camps in Scotts Head. We know that our community will now rally behind Ritchie and assist in further developing his dream to provide upgraded facilities to promote athletic talents to international levels.

We were also fortunate in being able to listen to some of Shire Councillor Martin Ballangarry's life stories. Martin, as a young boy, was a star in the famous Charles Perkin's "Freedom Ride". He was one of the indigenous people who attended the then segregated picture theatre at Bowraville. Martin shared many such stories, exclaiming that he used to do that around campfires ... now it's around get-togethers! One such story related to the fact that the indigenous people were once classified as flora and fauna. So they used to go around calling out to their friends, "Hello Flora" ... "Hello Fauna"!

Let's hope that indeed "From little things big things grow"

Thanks Martin and go for gold Ritchie!

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Tammi Jonas
May 2nd, 2008

Last night the University of Melbourne Postgraduate Association (UMPA) was honoured to host one of hundreds of Reconciliation GetTogethers held around the country. The evening was a fantastic example of a community coming together to work towards a more positive future for all Australians, focusing on the reconciliation of indigenous and non-indigenous Australians. The 30-odd of us there began with an acknowledgment of country, and then moved on to tell the stories of what brought us there and what we hoped to achieve through such conversations.

The next stage of the evening involved breaking into three groups to grapple with questions of how the local community, the University and the nation can engage with reconciliation as a real process and support the building of relationships between indigenous and non-indigenous Australians. A few ideas included:

Local Community

* Promote greater awareness of indigenous history, culture and contemporary issues (and UMPA has agreed to put up a web page as soon as possible to begin collating information towards this aim); and
* Become better informed about action taking place already to address the history of disadvantage of indigenous Australians, and then getting involved in that action.

University

* Provide more resources as per the first point under 'Local Community', including seminar series, reading lists, and inclusion of indigenous issues in subject content (eg. aborignal health subjects in disciplines such as psychology and law);
* A University Breadth subject (possibly compulsory for all first years?) that addresses Australian history of indigenous and settler peoples, including a tutorial system with a series of 'engagements' designed and led by aboriginal elders and academics, as well as by academics from migrant communities, with a clear social inclusion set of objectives; and
* Re-think how best to support research in indigenous studies through examining such things as the ethics process and the cultural negotiations in fieldwork in indigenous communities that might not always fit with standard periods of candidature.

Nation

* Immediate improvement in quality and access to indigenous health care;
* Maintenance of pride in identity – intergrating aboriginal learning in curriculum;
* Exchange of cultures – more indigenous centres of learning (languages, culture);
* Self determination for indigenous peoples;
* Sustainable infrastructure with hard targets (eg. Remote communities with sustainable power generation); and
* Improved access to education at all levels.

Our conversation went for two and a half hours, and everyone left feeling invigorated, hopeful and, I believe, galvanised to action. I hope to see more of you at the next gathering, which is likely to take place on Sorry Day on the 26th of May. Let's hope this really is the beginning of Reconcili-action!

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Delia
May 2nd, 2008

Host: Delia Allen
Once again thank you to those people who attended.

Our Stories:
We heard great stories from diverse backgrounds and experiences about why each person felt strongly enough on the issues of reconciliation to attend this get together.

Our Local Community:
Given time constraints and people’s preferences we focussed on local issues rather than a national vision. The reasoning for this was that if GetUp will support and lobby for these changes on a local level, then out of that a national vision will grow. Many of these changes can be implemented through local councils.

1. ‘Acknowledgement of Country’ signs be produced and displayed on all government offices, schools, NGOs, churches, community groups and private businesses. If these organisations were either made to pay a peppercorn rent per year or buy them for a nominal price from local councils, this money could be used to fund annual Sorry Day events.
We also thought that private households should be able to buy a sign to put on the front fence to show individual commitment to reconciliation.

2. A ‘Pay the Rent’ scheme of a small amount for all local organisations, churches and businesses to fund education and training scholarships for Indigenous people.

3. Signage similar to that in the Northern Territory, for example on Nightcliff foreshore in Darwin, which tells the name of the traditional owners, local plants and animals and what they were used for, be erected around local rivers, creeks, parks, and any sites of traditional significance in city areas signs should be put on the buildings that now occupy those sites.

4. All new streets have Aboriginal names.

5. A register of all local Indigenous organisations and what they do. This could become amalgamated into a national online register.

Our National Vision
1. One thing that was expressed strongly was that while there should be a genuine push for a bipartisan approach on the national level, it should not be at the expense of future policies and programs for reconciliation.

2. We also felt very strongly that policy cannot be a one size fits all approach. Just as the continent of Europe has European people of many different nations, so the continent of Australia has Aboriginal people of many different nations. One of the consequences of colonisation has been that in many parts of Australia some Aboriginal nations were forced to live in the same towns and communities, and for some this has caused problems. We believe that consultation with the many Aboriginal nations is essential for reconciliation.

3. We understand that Indigenous women were calling on the Federal Government some 20 years ago to address the issues of drug and alcohol abuse and abuse of women and children in their communities, which was only acted on last year. We believe it is imperative that Indigenous women are included in all reconciliation discussion, policy development and implementation.


We look forward to seeing the ideas from all the other meetings around the country.

Delia Allen

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Gordon\'s Bardon Q GetTogether
May 2nd, 2008

Hello Friends,

Thank you for your participation and for being interested in the GetTogether on Tuesday night. We had ten people attend our meeting.

The notes I made on the night indicate that Reconciliation has a long way to go and we are making a beginning. I want to especially thank Steve for his contribution and his insights to life as an Aboriginal person in Australia today. The following are notes I made of main points from the discussion. They do not form a minutes, nor are they a formal record of the proceedings.

Isolation can be part of the problem;
Need to build resilience and pride in (rural) Aboriginal society;
Rarely a positive image of Aboriginal people in the mass media. Steve pointed out that racism can be two ways, he called it reverse racism. All groups have some sort of prejudice;
We have to influence mainstream media;
In education teachers need to have in service training to develop an understanding of of the indigenous perspective;
Need to develop a national campaign to educate mainstream Australia.
Reconciliation is more than an apology, what else?;
We need a better understanding of Aboriginal society;
Western education bias needs to be countered by more emphasis on things like the Dreamtime Festival;
The ATSIC model of representation needs to be restored. Previous problems were excessive bureaucracy and too many white public servants. An ATSIC should be a stand alone department and the new entity should be more locally focused than a big national organisation eg based on local or state sized regions.

In conclusion the meeting discussed the meaning of reconciliation? People felt we need to emphasise equal but different in the Aboriginal/Non Aboriginal problem. Reconciliation begins with the individual. It starts with 'me' and evolves to the nation. The recent change of government and the swing to Kev Rudd was so that these changes could begin. The former liberal governments intervention in the Northern Territory was seen as political trickery of a government in its dying days trying to look like it was doing something.

The meeting agreed that a media release and a picture should be sent to the local paper. People at our meeting are interested in coming together again to view the new documentary from Reconciliation Australia. We have to find a venue, but Oscar said he will contact the Gap High School and sound them out about using school facilities and involving the school/local and GetUp communities. The viewing should be on National Sorry Day, the 26th of May.

Once again thanks to all. Those friends who could not make it to the meeting are welcome to continue to participate if they want to.
Gordon Curtis (Convener).


Cheers from Gordon

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Rosemary Kelly/Jennie Bremner
May 2nd, 2008

Get Up Discussion Evening 29/4/08
Aboriginal Reconciliation
Victorian Trades Hall Council

Outcomes

Aboriginal self-determination and political engagement were felt to be the core of reconciliation. Some of the measures below were felt by the group to facilitate this.

• Negotiation of a Treaty between indigenous and non-indigenous Australia. Such a treaty should include employment/ training provisions which guarantee indigenous people access to the regulated labour market through, if need be, affirmative action and setting of targets. It was noted that increased labour force participation would lead to increased rates of unionization and therefore representation in the political process.

• Political structures need to be developed to replace ATSIC. The group felt that this is an urgent priority as, since the abolition of ATSIC, aboriginal voices are not being heard. This would be an essential pre-condition to the negotiation of a treaty.

• In any representative structure women should be guaranteed at least 50% of the places.

• Funding for aboriginal women’s safe houses and other measures to mitigate the effects of violence against women is urgently required, particularly in remote communities. These measures will only be successful if aboriginal women themselves are consulted about their priorities.

• Increased funding of existing aboriginal health and education facilities. It was noted that the Aboriginal Health Service has been so under funded by the state government that it can not afford to employ the health professionals needed. Aboriginal schools in Melbourne which were closed by the Kennett Govt. have not been re-opened by the Labor Govt. and should be. More public housing for aboriginal people is urgently required in Melbourne.

• White ignorance about aboriginal history needs to be redressed through inclusion of post-Howard aboriginal studies in school curriculums.

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Bega GetTogether
May 2nd, 2008

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In Bega we had a gathering of 19 people, indigenous and non-indigenous. We were lucky to have lots of young people at our gathering who were really inspiring and smart about getting us better connected in the future. As a start, we are having a barbeque at the Bega River on 1 June. I am really grateful that Getup has got us started. We all feel so hopeful after Tuesday night and are looking forward to deepening our relationships with eachother.

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coleen greene
May 2nd, 2008

Take a bow everyone who entered into the spirit of GETUP.
Us Maroubra Jnct, Sydney local oldies met at lunch time in the Plaza to promote your 7 pm world wide conversation. (7pm way passed curfew for some but we still wanted to somehow be part of it)
"Things" can only get bigger from here. best wishes Col

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AnnaG
May 2nd, 2008

I hosted a GetTogether in the heart of Melbourne at Space 39 Little Collins Street. It was with some trepidation that I did this , but once we got talking it was a lovely warm atmoshphere with obvious commitment from all to join the fight Justice, Equality and Reconciliation for Indigenous Australians.. There were about 22 of us and we had a great conversation. Listening to all the different stories was amazing and I went home that night to little sleep because my mind was buzzing with all the ideas and stories that I had heard. Thankyou to all who joined me for this great night.
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iain
May 2nd, 2008

I think the 20:20 summit should have included a vision for another apology in 2020 which will need to be a major one to atone for the failure to treat aboriginal people equally in matters of child sexual abuse. State governments are failing to protect children in the name of statistics: ie, so more aborigines are not incarcerated. A disgrace.

An apology for the failed 1960's policy of sticking aborigines in some kind of faux traditional lifestyle out in communities in the middle of nowhere with limited education and employment prospects must end as well.

Aboriginal people will get the best outcomes when hand wringing government agencies dont try to have a separate and different way of treating them in every single circumstance. Aboriginal people and every other Australian shoudl be treated the same - removing one of the most obvious causes for the broader community to treat them as "separate" and "different" in the form of racist behaviour.

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GuyADL
May 2nd, 2008

I'm a 59 year old Australian who migrated from my native Britain when I was 6. I had left Oz for an extended tour of parts of the world in October 07 and had been in Bolivia for several months when the election of Rudd took place and the song had been suggested. I found myself in an Internet Cafe in Cochabamba crying, with Bolivians around me perplexed by this because few of them speak English and my Spanish is not great.

I feel that the future is not set and because of this we are all in uncharted waters with courage as our only asset. The insidious bigotry of the past is in danger of collapsing and we are on a byroad of freedom. Congratulations Oz I salute you.
Guy

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Alison B
May 2nd, 2008

Thankyou to everyone who held gatherings and shared about them on this site - I hope there will be MANY more as I was stuck in a massive Gold Coast traffic jam for 3 hours and didn't get to the Currumbin gathering - see Kerry's write up. YOU HAVE MADE A HUGE POSTIVE DIFFERENCE - something really special. Ali B

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Elaine
May 2nd, 2008

Firstly, thank you and well done Get Up, what a wonderful, innovative and motivating driver for community action you are. This opportunity brought many people together to meet and talk and develop ideas for social transformation now -

With members of Port Phillip Reconciliation, and other interested members of our community, we shared many stories, reflections and ideas that inspired this group (most of us meeting for the first time) toward the next meeting, which we agree - will include music and song and hopefully include more people - indigenous and non indigenous, to futher develop our interests and friendships.

We were so nourished by our dialogue, this evening that we forgot to eat the great food!!!!

Good on you everyone for taking part and supporting this and bringing it to life.

Hope we can reflect again in 3 - 6 months to see how the ideas are taking shape : )

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Richard
May 2nd, 2008

There are six references to a treaty in the first 35 comments. But has anyone actually seen one? At some stage soon it is going to be necessary to come up with a draft otherwise the whole idea will vanish along with the other good intentions.

As indigenous people inter-marry in the mainstream (as Australians tend to) who will be the parties to such a treaty?

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GetUp Bundee
May 3rd, 2008

GetUp Bundee for Reconciliation 2020

Little Fish by a beaut BigPond to go Forwards Together

Some twenty people came and went between 5 and 8pm and were made very welcome to warm themselves by the fire and share their thoughts. Most important, everybody shared related and positive ideas to create ways for Reconciliation. Also important, was the real and positive responses and enquiries from local people prior to 29th April. We will hope to progress further with our community in such moods and genuine desire to assist our Australian ways forward for 2020.

The evening was made very special by Bundeena's Indigenous Resident Kerrie Toomey from the Murri People in NSW. Kerrie gave a special welcome to country and our beaut land in Bundeena. She later shared her vision for reconciliation based on her own work for schools and our next generations. This all added a powerful message for our Bundeena Reconciliation efforts.

Tim will present his beautiful 'Sovereignty' mosaic to Canberra later in the year as prompted and approved by elders of the Ngunnawal People. Roger will continue with his community healthcare work for our Australian Indigenous people for Traditional Medicine for most cultures to work towards closing the gaps in healthcare. This global work is now relevant to most indigenous people from most developing nations by sharing ancient and modern healthcare systems.

Blessed with a beautiful day and nippy evening, beautiful location, and positive people, we all resolved to share differing world cultures. Further input will be made when all reports are in from national 'Community Gatherings' to affirm any ongoing construct. In the interim, Tim Cole at snappytim@gmail.com and 0424 287495 will be happy to assist any local way forward for individuals and any community and national agendas. A key factor being to recognise and work with all Aussie and World cultures to 'Go Forwards Together for 2020'.

Roger and Tim

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Southern Swan
May 3rd, 2008

Quote: "So-called white society is as riddled with sex-abuse, violence and drug abuse and all manner of crimes yet you have chosen to side with them in using remote indigenous communities as something and someone to point the finger at as a means of denial and refusal to confront negative issues intrinsic to all Australian society. Perhaps it is you who is really hiding from your inability to change things....

You have skirted around the issues..... It is all white mans' law and it is still all being imposed in a colonialist invader/occupier method. As Marion Scrymgour said, the problem is the utter lack of understanding of "settler society"......"

http://www.womenforwik.org/response_to_marcia_langton.html

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gayle mcharg
May 3rd, 2008

We were a small group of seven meeting at a tiny place called Mirboo in South Gippsland on a cold wintry night- another half dozen people had expressed an interest in coming but couldn't make it on the night.While sharing a bowl of soup we discussed the Apology and how long overdue it was. One of our group was in Canberra at the time and heard it first hand and so was able to describe the moving significance of the occasion. Another member has found axe heads and other tools from past indigenous inhabitants on his land and wants to contact local aboriginal people about these. We discussed how education and knowledge are the keys to reconciliation. Once people know about past practices, they have some understanding of what indigenous people have been through and are more ready to work together to "Close the Gap'.One of our group is a teacher and told us how after watching the recent SBS program 'Who Do You Think You Are' on Cathy Freeman with her class, the students were asking questions about government policies that witheld pay for aboriginal people and forced Cathy's grandfather's family to move to Palm Island where they were not allowed to practise their culture. When the policies of protection and assimilation were explained briefly, one student said, "But tha't a form of genocide," and wanted to know where he could look into this more. We finished the night by listening to the new version of the song 'From Little Things Big Things Grow' and all agreed it had been a great get together. We think "Get Up does a fantastic job!

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Liz ward
May 3rd, 2008

Just as we have the aboriginal flag, which now unifies all aboriginal people across the nation, from communities to Redfern and islands, I would like to propose that this song becomes the national anthem for all aboriginal people.

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Vida Gaigalas
May 3rd, 2008

Your comment
If I had known about the Get Togethers on Tuesday night I would have definitely attended one in Melbourne. Why wasn't I told and I am sure I read all the emails I get from GetUp.
Did I miss something on one of them? Can it be clearer next time as somehow the message got passed me. Sorry.
Vida

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vida
May 3rd, 2008

I just checked my emails and saw the relevant email sent on 14 April and I can't believe I missed it and a Get Together on Tuesday either at Trades Hall or Williamstown. I could have brought several friends too. I needed a big reminder email, in future maybe more than one email could be sent?
thanks in advance and see you all next time.

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Warwick
May 3rd, 2008


Education equals self empowerment
Influence equals self empowerment
Respect equals self respect,mutual respect and self empowerment.

Words Words Words ?

HOW TO ?

Try Try Again ad keep on-this is known as Experiential Learning.

All sides required emotional and social maturity and not dumbing down platitudes.

yYuth must hold the key to this,Adults have little to be respected for so far regarding our interegrated attitudes between Indigines and Settlers ?

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Ann
May 3rd, 2008

Reconciliation GetTogether at Lilyfield Community Centre

Thirty-four non-Indigenous people with a wide range of experiences met at the Lilyfield Community Centre and participated in four discussion groups led by Ann, Janene, Jane and Anna. Janene commenced the event by acknowledging that we were on the land of the Wongal people, very close to the land of the Cadigal people, and she said “Good evening ladies and gentlemen” in the language of the Cadigal people, words she had learnt that day from an Aboriginal officer at the Powerhouse Museum.

Conversation in general focused on the need for non-Indigenous people to support, not lead, and to help make space for Indigenous people to define their place in society and the economy.

Our Local Community
It was suggested that we need to facilitate ways of meeting with Indigenous and non-Indigenous people, eg a Callan Park music event, and to meet with the newly appointed Indigenous person on Leichhardt Council, about possibilities for an Indigenous run 'auntys and uncles' (ie long term, one on one as requested by Indigenous families), which could be run by the new appointee (model: http://www.auntiesanduncles.com.au/). People wanted to find out more about local infrastructure and how to encourage income generation.

A framework for mentoring (for all ages and across all fields) that Indigenous people could access if they wished was also suggested. This could cover a range of skills from literacy, study or computer skills to job applications or running a business. Such a mentoring framework could be reciprocal, a bit like Ngapartji Ngapartji which means, “I give you something, you give me something” in the Pitjantjatjara language. Indigenous reciprocation would not necessarily be providing language as in the Big hART/ Belvoir production, called Ngapartji Ngapartji, but could simply be advice about how to make a workplace, business, school or organisation more welcoming or culturally appropriate for Indigenous people.

A suggestion aimed at achieving more respect in the business community was to write to the local Chamber of Commerce to recommend that all businesses show respect by acknowledging country at the beginning of their meetings.


On National Vision
An equal and unified Australia would be one in which all Australians reach their capability (ie what they are individually capable of doing /or human potential) and that they are proud of who they are. To do this requires vast action in repairing pasts - eg for Indigenous people it involves overcoming trauma, discrimination, displacement, under-education, all of which have sometimes led to domestic violence, alcohol etc; for non-Indigenous people it involves overcoming discrimination, acceptance of difference in Australian society, working with people towards a unified vision and integrating different people and cultures into our jobs.

There is a need to increase consultation and long term sustainability (across generations) in Indigenous projects. If there are changes to projects such as the NT intervention, it is important that the funding is not cut, but rather increased when it is redirected to more consultative and sustainable projects. Proper consultation also raises the need for governments and other authorities to use translators in remote areas to ensure communications are understood. Translators may also assist Aboriginal people to express their concerns and needs in ways that will be better understood by authorities.

There was concern about education at all levels. The concern was not only for education of Indigenous students (to close the gap) but also how to educate older non-Indigenous people who have missed out on hearing the true history of Australia. One group mentioned the removal of education funding for Aboriginal people and the tendency to mainstream funding in ways that often lead to less participation by Aboriginal parents.

Everyone knew of Indigenous success stories and wanted to hear more of these in the media.

Some personal reconciliation stories
Anthony was very concerned about the lack of knowledge most people have about the history of how Indigenous people were treated. He said he was the only person in his office to turn on the TV in the communal kitchen to watch the apology. A colleague came in and said, "What's this going to cost us?" He conveyed to the colleague a news report he had seen on TV about a girl who had been taken from her family and repeatedly raped and abused and how he thought she deserved compensation. The colleague became dumbfounded and stopped and watched the apology with him.

Jenny, a photographer and former primary school teacher, told a very moving story about being on the Sea of Hands tour around Australia and how Indigenous people were so appreciative of this gesture of reconciliation. She was particularly emotional about a blind Elder in Uluru who could not see the hands but could hear them moving in the wind and how he came over and very tearfully put his hand out to touch the hands because he was so moved by the gesture.

Faye had visited remote communities as a tourist and she spoke passionately about how the disadvantage she saw was a matter that struck at her sense of personal identity as an Australian and how we need to achieve reconciliation and overcome Indigenous disadvantage for the whole nation to heal and move forward with a positive sense of identity.

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Barbara Livesey
May 3rd, 2008

I've just been reading the many comments from people who, like me and Matilda House, hosted the reconciliation get togethers last week. Thanks to all of you for your many thoughtful and inspiring comments. Our team at Reconciliation Australia will continue to talk with Brett and others at Get Up about how we can support you to keep these conversations going at the local level. Our Get together and others I've been reading about have certainly given us new ideas to go forward at Reconciliation Australia.
Since the Apology we've been overwhelmed by the positive feedback from both non-Indigenous people who want to reconcile and Indigenous people talking about the impact of the Apology.
There's a couple of things coming up that people may be interested in:
27 May to June 3 is National Reconciliation Week and there'll be local events going on all round the country so please put your events up on our online calendar at www.reconciliation.org.au.
Also check out our website at www.reconcile.org.au to see what other people tare saying and singing about reconciliation and there's lots of information on there too under the get smart section.
On 26 May we're encouraging groups to meet again to watch a documentary that we've just completed on the National Apology. 26 May marks the day that the Bringing Them Home Report was first presented and is referred to as 'Sorry Day'.
The doco goes for 30 minutes and you can get a copy by going to our website at www.reconciliation.org.au and you'll find an online form there to request one. We're encouraging community and public screenings all round the country and hope that people will take the opportunity to talk about it after watching it.

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Brett Solomon
May 5th, 2008

I have deleted the last round of comments on this blog - they are offensive, aggressive and unhelpful.

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Matt
May 5th, 2008

There you go - censorship even. Your site has become a haven for this type of thing because you appear to have an undisclosed agenda, and so you are attracting those who are alike from all parts of the social spectrum. Until you stop being the K.Rudd fan club and go back to being a non aligned organisation like you claim to be, you will have no credibility, the discussion will continue to degenerate and only be filled by people with an obvious political alignment. Getup should just Getreal.

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Matt
May 5th, 2008

Whoops - I kept saying "you" instead of "we". Perhaps subconsciously expressing my intention to Getoff the list of members in disgust if things don't pick up soon, so as my membership cannot be used in the 270473 of which I bet less than half have even logged on or had anything to do with Getup since after the election.

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Northern Star
May 6th, 2008

Im very proud to be an Australian because of what has happened in my country in terms of reconciliation. Well done all.

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ReconcilED
May 7th, 2008

Wow! Great work GetUp, I went to one of your reconciliation gettogethers - anyone who actually did would clearly disregard the comments from matt below. It was fantastic.
As soon as people put away their fretted and anxious conspiracy theories the rest of us can get on with actually working towards a better society.
Good on everyone at GetUp for being a part of the SOLUTION, and please keep up the good work, like the recent gettogethers - they were life and nation changing!

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reconciliACTion
May 7th, 2008

Last week was an amazing coming together of people who for too long have been segregated and separated.

Now is the time to turn reconciliation into reconcili-action!

Our meeting was the perfect to start to what hopefully will be a series of meetings across the coming year.

We want to join together and form new links within our local community as well as find out more about our local Aboriginal heritage.

Good on ya GetUP for inspiring us to take the next steps together!

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Matt
May 9th, 2008

You are right ReconcilED - I am fretted and anxious about things raised in my below entry, and this was an inappropriate blog to vent it in. It was a rush of blood upon seeing a Getup executive posting. I actually do support actions such as this one and wish I hadn't made those comments here. These gettogethers are definitely positive and constructive and I would love to attend one. I agree that when people get on with working towards a better society that is a positive life changing experience for that person, people around them and potentially for nations.

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Jane
May 9th, 2008

Our Get Together in Eltham, VIC was a wonderful night where we made new friends and starting talking through Reconciliation - what it means, what it may look like, how we as a nation have come to this stage.

We each expressed the same concern - that we really wanted there to be a next step, but we were not sure what that step should be. We felt that we should not be imposing what we think should be done, we should be asking what needs to be done.

We have decided to meet again - both to talk and to do.

There are a variety of things we are considering in order to build and strengthen our understanding of the real issues. We plan on attending some meetings hosted by the local Reconciliation Group, visiting some local cultural centres and also Bunjilaka at the Melb Museum. We want to learn. We want to understand.

We will try to establish a link within the local community - we felt that we can each individually make a difference at the grassroots level.

The way we use our votes and our voices and our (active) memberships of various groups can have an impact at a regional, state or federal level. The way we use our hearts and minds can make a difference at a more local and personal level.

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Linda Fraser
May 9th, 2008

I would like to thank the two lovely ladies who came to my out on 29th April. We would like to join in with any other Getup groups that maybe be in the TAREE NSW area.
I hope to hear from any other groups soon.
Linda - rubymay2203@yahoo.com.au

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Susie Russell
May 12th, 2008

Our meeting at The Cottage in Taree was very uplifting. We were 13 people indigenous and non-indigenous, who came together, shared stories, listened to the song, and agreed to keep meeting and organising activities to build bridges in our community.

Our first activity will be a screening of the film Kanyini at the Library at Chatham High School. 6pm Wednesday June 4. everyone welcome. Entry by donation and a light supper will be provided.

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Melanie from Camberwell
May 14th, 2008

Thanks to our host Sue for organising our get together of seven in Camberwell Vic.

It was great meeting people who have different backgrounds and with different experiences but with the same vision.

We all have a desire for something to come out of our meeting. We want to move beyond the statements and as a community move toward the solution.

We have heard all the promises made by politicians; we have heard our Prime Minister say sorry, now we need to follow up, write letters to our local members.

Our group has hope that the current government may be more open to real and lasting change toward reconciliation.

Some of the visions we came up with were:

I’d like an Australia where all Australians are judged not by the colour of their skin but by the content of their character (adapted from Dr Martin Luther King Jr).

I’d like for more indigenous people to have the self esteem to go for the jobs they want and believe they could get them.

I’d like for children to be taught the local aboriginal languages at school.

Thanks to GetUp! for the great idea that us talking!

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Susie Russell
June 9th, 2008

About 40 people attended the film screening of Kanyini at Chatham High in Taree on Wednesday June 4. It is both a confronting and uplifting film and a good starting place for a discussion on reconciliation. We have now formed Manning Reconciliation and are having a meeting to plan future activities at Chatham High Library, 6pm on June 18. Bring nibbles.
For information about the film check out www.kanyini.com

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