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Update: Your vote stopped? Get the facts!


Posted on the campaign blog , March 15th, 2010

Will you be able to vote this election? It may depend on what happens in the Senate tonight.

We take it for granted that in Australia, with our proud history of compulsory voting, everybody has a chance to vote. But hundreds of thousands of Australians were unable to cast a vote last election because of tricky laws that make it harder for Australians to cast their ballot - especially young, migrant, indigenous or poorer Australians.

Tonight the Senate will debate changes to the Electoral Act that would put an end to these unfair laws - but the amendments are on a knife's edge. Senator Fielding of Family First and Independent Senator Nick Xenophon will have the deciding votes,  with the Greens and Labor voting for the amendments and the Coalition against.

Here's your simple guide to the amendments:

- Schedule 1 -

If you need to enrol to vote, or change your details, when are you likely to do it? Probably just after the election is called, right? No longer. 

Since 2006, you only have until 8pm on the day election writs are issued (usually the day the election is called) to enrol, and only 3 days to change your details. A poll comissioned by GetUp at the time found that 89% of Australians thought the government should not make it harder to enrol to vote; only 3% thought it should be harder to enrol (the rest were undecided).

Schedule 1 of the reforms being debated tonight will change that, and give Australians 7 days to enrol or change their details.

Lots of Australians use the one week grace period to get their enrolment information up to date. 423,975 people sent their enrolment forms in during the week just before the cut-off date in the 2004 election and the AEC answered almost 10,000 email inquiries during that the period.  In practice, removing the grace period has disenfranchised hundreds of thousands of Australians.

Who is affected by this?

Those who move house regularly: young families who rent, indigenous, migrant, young and poor Australians. Also, Australians who are living or travelling overseas.

AEC figures indicate that at least 18% of Australians 18-25 are not on the electoral roll - but former Special Minister of State Gary Nairn has admitted that the real figure is probably closer to 33%.  An estimated one million Australians (5% of the country) are overseas at any given time, with around 500,000 based abroad long-term. It's harder for these Australians to know when an election will be called, and in many cases it's impossible for them to update their address details within 3 working days because of postal times etc.

- Schedule 2 -


Schedule 2 is all about provisional votes. Provisional votes happen when a voter arrives at their local polling station on election-day, gives their name to the official but finds they aren’t on the roll. So they get a ballot paper, fill it in, and put it in an envelope with their name and address on it. The voter must also provide valid ID, like a drivers license, on the spot, or present to an AEC office with valid ID within a week. Later in the week the Australian Electoral Commission checks the voters details and if the AEC agrees they should indeed have been on the roll, their ballot paper is counted.


 




168,767 Australians cast provisional votes at the 2007 federal election. Only 14% of those votes were counted; 86% (about 144,000) were rejected. That means 144,000 Australians - almost 2 electorates worth - cast a vote at the 2007 federal election but didn't have their vote counted. Most of them were disenfranchised because they had moved house within their electorate and failed to fill in a change of address form at the AEC.

In the 2004 federal election 50% of provisional votes were counted. In the 2007 federal election, after the (misleadingly named) Electoral Integrity Act 2006, just 14% were counted.

Who are these provisional voters?


They're people who move houses a lot, or who don't have drivers licences: young, indigenous, migrant and poorer Australians.

The average number of provisional votes in the 10 most Indigenous seats in this country is 1.76 per cent of the total vote and the national average is 1.23 per cent. In other words, it is half a per cent higher on average in areas with large indigenous populations.

Why are these voters not on the electoral roll?


Becasue the AEC has removed them from the roll. This could be because mail to their address was returned to sender, or it could be because the AEC thought that elector had died (sometimes they get that wrong). Most of the time people are removed because they moved house and didn't complete a change of address form at the AEC.Schedule 2 will repeal the requirement for voters casting a provisional vote to provide evidence of identity and will instead insert the new requirement that, where there is any doubt as to the bona fides of the elector, the signature on the envelope containing a provisional vote be compared with the signature of the elector on previously lodged enrolment records.

What's wrong with the ID requirements?

They don't sound too unreasonable - but actually there are about 27,000 voters whose votes weren't counted last election because of these requirements. Why can't they present ID when they vote? Mostly because they don't have a drivers license. Many of the voters who cast provisional are young, poor or indigenous. Often these voters don't have drivers licenses. Without a license they need to provide a passport or a birth certificate in order to vote. Nobody expects to have to present their brith certificate when they vote -- for most Australians there is no need to provide ID at the polling place at all.

Why don't provisional voters follow-up and give the AEC ID within a week after the election?

Some people aren't struck from the roll because they've moved, but because of a mistake: sometimes the AEC thinks someone has moved when they actually haven't, or thinks they're dead when they're actually still alive (no really, it happens). These people can still have their votes counted if they go to an AEC office within a week of the election with valid ID. Some do, but understandably, many don't - so why not? 

1 - Because the election result is already decided. Who would take time off work, go to the AEC and fill out a form in order to cast a vote that nobody will pay any attention to?

2 - Because they're busy working.

3 - Because in some regional electorates the AEC and the post office are both many hours away.

4 - Because not only do they have to prove their identity with a drivers license or other prescribed document, there are other requirements for identification including proving the validity of their signature. Basically, it can be a lot of paperwork.

Interesting note:

Previously, if a voter moved house without telling the AEC, but stayed in the same electorate, they were entitled to cast a provisional vote and have that vote counted -- provided they could prove their identity and new address. The Howard Government changed that, and these votes are now rejected. Schedule 2 of these amendments won't fix that - and we'll be asking the Government to rectify that.

Other reasons why these reforms are important:


Politicians can selectively disenfranchise voters:

Politicians bulk-mail their electorates before each election. Any mail that is returned to sender can be passed on to the AEC, who can then begin to remove those people from the electoral roll. Perhaps this is not so alarming in itself, but there is nothing to regulate or monitor the activities of politicians in this respect, and it is not unimaginable to envision a party selectively mailing those groups or areas unlikely to vote for them, and then selectively reporting the ‘returned to senders’ to suit their psephological fancies. When those removed from the roll in such a way have their provisional votes rejected, the problem is even worse.

These voters can change the result of elections:


These voters could have changed the outcome of several marginal seats. Approximately 144,000 Australians who cast provisional ballots on November 24 did not have their votes counted14. Those 144,000 Australians, together equivalent to almost 2 whole federal electorates, could well have changed the outcome of a couple of federal seats. There is no way to know for sure exactly how those provisional voters would have impacted the result – but therein lies the problem.


 


--- Our blog post from 13 April 2007 ----


Because we don't have fixed terms and set election dates in Australia, citizens never know exactly when a federal election will be held. Unless you're following Australian federal politics closely, it's easy to miss out on these deadlines and end up missing out on your chance to vote entirely. Although we take it for granted that voting is compulsory, a surprisingly large number of eligible citizens are not enrolled and risk missing out on the chance to have their voices heard come election day. For young people between the ages of 18-25 this is particularly true: the AEC has found that 18% of people within this age group aren't on the roll. [UPDATE: Special Minister of State Gary Nairn recently admitted that the number of unenrolled young people has been dramatically underestimated and could be as high as one-third of those in the 18-24 age category.] Furthemore, an estimated one million Australians (5% of the entire country) are overseas at any given time, with around 500,000 based abroad long-term. While many expats will have registered to vote before they left the country, anybody who has been away for more than three years and who hasn't voted since they left risks being struck from the electoral roll altogether. For more on the facts behind the changes to Australia's electoral laws, and how they affect you, read on.


What's the rush? The election won't be until the end of the year so can't I enrol before then? Yes and no. Traditionally, once the election is officially called - known as issuing a writ - we’re given one week to enrol or update our details (such as a new address) before the electoral roll is finalised and closed. Lots of people use this last-minute opportunity to get their enrolment information up to date. According to the AEC, 423,975 people sent their enrolment forms in during the week just before the cut-off date in the 2004 election. But on 22, June 2006, the Government used its majority to push new amendments through the Senate that will change things significantly this time around. Under the ‘Electoral Integrity Act’ you'll only have until 8pm on the day the election is officially called, known as issuing the writ, to get on the roll. And you'll only have three working days to update your address details. The two exceptions are 17 year-olds turning 18 before election day and people granted citizenship before election day.

The impact of these changes means thousands of people are likely to fail to register their details correctly with the AEC in time. Such early cut-off dates stand in complete contrast with other Western democracies. UK voters have until 11 days before polling day to enrol, our neighbours in New Zealand have until the day before polling day to register and Canadian voters can enrol all the way up until polling day. Ok, so I need to get my act together and enrol before the election is called. How hard could it be? From Monday April 16, new enrolees and people updating their details will need to prove their identity. The AEC has produced a detailed list of frequently asked questions which outlines exactly what's required. Why are these changes needed? The Government says the changes have been introduced to clamp down on electoral fraud and strengthen the integrity of the electoral roll. While all supporters of democracy would welcome attempts to ensure that voter fraud is kept to a minimum, numerous studies have shown that enrolment fraud is simply not a major problem in Australia. In fact, it turns out our electoral role is in very good shape. A 2002 report by the Australian National Audit Office found the roll to be 99% accurate when matched against Medicare data. Senator Andrew Bartlett, a former member of the Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters, is one MP who has spoken out against the changes to the law. While recognising the need to ensure "the integrity of the electoral roll is such that it does not unduly or improperly affect the outcome of elections," Senator Bartlett has stated: "The key aim in the Electoral Act is to make it as convenient as possible for people to get on the electoral roll," and, "the Government is not suggesting that you will get 100 per cent [accuracy] with these changes." What else do these amendments do? -Increase the threshold for donating anonymously to political parties from the old limit of $1,500 to $10,000. Donors and recipients will not have to identify the donor's name for donations under this amount. -Increase the level of tax deductible contributions from old limit of $100 per year to $1500 per year. -Automatically de-register all political parties, except for those with parliamentary representation. They must now re-apply for registration under provisions of the Act. -Further restrict the voting rights of prisoners. Previously, prisoners serving sentences of less than three years were entitled to vote in federal elections, the rationale being a person who would be released within the term of the sitting government should be able to have a say in the outcome. Now prisoners serving sentences of any length are barred from voting. For more information, see Justice Action Australia. To download a summary of the changes, including arguments for and against each, click here. The report was prepared by Norm Kelly, a lecturer in politics for the Australian National University and former member of the West Australian State Parliament, in the lead-up to Parliamentary debate before the Bill was passed. So what can we do about this? The first thing to do is to make sure that you are properly enrolled to vote so that your voice isn't silenced come election day. Check your details with the AEC and if you need to update them, fill out an electoral form ASAP. Next, spread the word to ensure your friends and family are correctly enrolled early, before the rolls are closed. Click here to share this essential campaign with everyone you know, including Australians overseas!



While you're there, sign the petition demanding this law be repealed in favour of strategies that make it easier, not harder, for Australians to be counted at election time. For instance, in New Zealand not only do you have more time to register, you can request an enrolment form via a free text message.


 


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April 13th, 2007

Thank you GetUp for clearing this up - I thought I must be missing something from these changes because I could see no reason why anyone would want to make it harder to vote.



Now I see - there is no reason other than to stop people who aren't Liberal voters from voting! How can we stand for this?! It undermines our fundamental democratic principles and proud voting history.



What is the problem with letting people enrol right up until the election? No-one thinks about their enrolment unitl they're bombarded by election advertising, not on the day it is called.



After a decade of this government it seems they are more and more brazen with the outrages and excesses of power they think we will not notice. Well I say it's time to GetUp! Reject this unbelievably self-interested and undemocratic legislation!

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Dom McCarthy
April 17th, 2007

Why aren't you making a campaign to abolish compulsory voting? After all how democratic is it that voters can be prosecuted for deciding there is not a political party worth giving half an hour for?



Without a guaranteed electorate each time, maybe the political parties and newer ones will do a bit more to inspire a voting electorate.....

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Paul
July 24th, 2010

Well you can't go to jail for not voting - if you don't like any of the candidates, you can always do an informal vote, by scrawling all over the ballot paper. Election day is one of the only days every 3 years where the country is mobilised to demonstrate their democratic rights - why would you want to discourage people from doing that by implementing American-style non-compulsory voting??

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Bernadette Lenzo
April 19th, 2007

Make things easier not harder,especially for younger voters

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Bruce Chenoweth
April 21st, 2007

I strongly suggest that Australians have same election enrolment procedures available to them as does New Zealanders and Canadians.

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Mr. G H Schorel-Hlavka
April 21st, 2007

I am concerned in regard of what I consider very misleading set out by GetUp.



On 19 July 2006 I succeeded on numerous constitutional grounds in my appeals against convictions of FAILING TO VOTE. As such, I for one proved to be right about what is constitutionally appropriate.



One of my constitutional arguments was that constitutionally the Commonwealth of Australia is actually prohibited from making voting compulsory. My books (INSPECTOR-RIKATI® book on CD series) have set this out extensively.



I also successfully pursued that “citizenship” is a State legislative power that deals also with franchise and the commonwealth of Australia specifically was refused legislative powers to define/declare “citizenship”!



Also, I successfully argued that the Commonwealth of Australia has no constitutional powers to deny any electors (having obtained State franchise) from voting. As such, if a State elector enrolls in a State, say, the day before a federal election then Section 41 of the Constitution guarantees the right to vote, regardless what the Federal Government may have legislated contrary to it!



Hansard 3-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates (Official Record of the Debates of the National Australasian Convention) (Chapter 33 of the CD)

QUOTE

Mr. BARTON.-Is not the right process to alter the word "qualification" to "right"?

Mr. KINGSTON.-Qualification means registration.

END QUOTE



And

QUOTE

Mr. DOBSON (Tasmania).-

You will have a roll which governs all state elections, but which does not apply to Commonwealth elections, and you will have to direct an officer to go through the different state rolls, and see whether a man is entitled to vote for the Commonwealth, if you keep in the word "qualification."

END QUOTE



Ok GetUp team, if you are going to present something then try not to come across as some mouth piece for a government or the AEC but do your homework and present the proper details!

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Philip Andrew Travers
April 22nd, 2007

I do not vote,because the essential reality that however the value of my vote is determined,it doesnt in anyway, really mean that what I consider is important will be found in general or specific policy settings,under our three levels of government,where the AEC, is more recognised than local councils as important.There is no doubt ,there are responsible politicians who are not driven by their own needs for power and other known motivations.My point is really their claim to be responsible and supported by a bureaucracy that seems to have as many rights as the unknown sitting members,and endless number of bureaucrats doing things for me that account for their superannuation ,maybe, but not my acceptance.If all the parties and individuals do not meet an expectation of a potential voter,why have the penalty on the voter!?It isnt rocket science being honest in public life,and it isnt rocket science getting approval of media moguls who have given up their right of Australian citizenship for something else.These things need to be noted,as voting is inherently an act of faith,that intention will follow election promise..These words of mine are not good reasons not to vote!?They are reasons that as yet makes me feel the AEC is complicit with the powerful,and not the voter,or potential voter. There would seem to be ample evidence that our society isnt built on mutual care,the evidence is new legislation and even the affordability of private and public services and the limitations in practice of those services..The commitment to law abiders is as faulty as the fact,often,repeated, there are no votes in prisoners.I think there is ample evidence,the law abiding voter is as much engaged in societal fraud as those off to the sin bin.Societal fraud comes in many facial distortions and applications,but maybe not even in common law.A conscientious objection to voting isnt a light-heartedness,there are responsible citizens at all levels of governance and bureau.I am just offended by the Electoral Act and the spinelessness of its employees if this site aims to correct a injustice.You have my approval.I vote for you by leaving my comment,and my details.

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Rod
July 14th, 2010

Sorry,just figuring out how this reply function works. My humble opinion is that even though I don't want to vote, I do. You can have a decent effect on the system if you always vote against the sitting member. If enough do this we can gradually get a more representative and less corrupt democracy.

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July 14th, 2010

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Mr. G H Schorel-Hlavka
April 27th, 2007

the following is of the hansard record of the Constitution convention Debates showing that the proposal to make registration and voting compulsory was proposed and defeated (by withdrawal)



Mr. GORDON: I move:

To strike out the words: "or it person qualified to become such elector."

I do this for three reasons

Mr. REID: Give us one.

Mr. GORDON: One is that everyone born in the Commonwealth is qualified to become an elector.

HON. MEMBERS: Do not make a speech

Mr. GORDON: My chief point is that I think that registration should be made compulsory. I would not give a man who has lived here for three years without registration a vote.

Mr. PEACOCK: His name might have dropped off accidentally.

Sir GEORGE TURNER: He may have been away for a trip.

Mr. REID: Withdraw. (Laughter.)

Mr. GORDON: I will ask leave to withdraw the amendment.

Amendment withdrawn.



As the Framers of the Constitution made clear there is a "Political liberty", and as such the freedom to participate or not to participate in elections.

And, at various occiasions they made clear that the count of votes should be on those "who voted" and not as to the number of electors entitled to vote.



There is a lot more, as I have set out extensively in my INSPECTOR-RIKATI® book on CD//DVD and as I am due to publish, in the next few days, "INSPECTOR-RIKATI® on IR WorkChoices legislation" this book also contains extensive cquotations as to what is constitutionally appropriate and applicable.



Despite having been standing for Federal Elections as a candidate the Court accepted ( on 19 July 12006) my right to refuse to vote, in the same elections!



As such, I am not just making it up but have a Court judgment to prove it.



My blog and my website http://www.schorel-hlavka.com






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Bart Howe
April 27th, 2007

Voting isn't compulsory. Rocking up is.

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Chris mANDERSON
May 3rd, 2007

Voting is the average persons only power over their future and they should be encouraged not kept in the dark.

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Camilla Cooke
May 4th, 2007

Can someone explain how giving people more time to enrol increases the risk of fraud? If electoral fraud is your intention, you'll just adjust your time frame? How did Howard get away with this argument?

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E. Cashmore
May 8th, 2007

we need adequate time!

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rebecca ray
May 8th, 2007

voting is the most important right as a citizen of australia. the day we lose compulsary voting will be very sad indeed. for those who argue it is not democratic, no one makes u fill in the forms, and no one makes u enrol. it is your choice what u do in the booth, appreciate the right and dont abuse it. the younger generation (im a member of) need to be given the opportunity to enrol. whenever the election is called, it might just inspire some people to enrol, we should give them that chance.

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Helen May Lewis
May 15th, 2007

This law should be repealed immediately .It is stomping on our democracy , it is a cynical slap in the fac e for all Australians and shows this government for what it really is. Deceitful and desperate

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Brian Jones
May 28th, 2007

Observe the utter funk that the 'LIBERAL PARTY'S RIGHT TO RULE' might be in doubt. The suggestion that this law is being introduced to fight electoral fraud is pure subterfuge. It is a move calculated to give their party the edge. The liberal party will achieve this advantage by bombarding the public with voting advertisements within the week just prior to the cutoff date so that the non-liberals will be so pissed off that they will on purpose, ignore their enrollment status.



Be aware of the psychology in use here. Make it backfire by enrolling early and when voting time comes, vote your opposition to this ever-lying war-mongering government that sells us out to America and pays hypocritical lip service to the fair go.

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Ben Irons
June 26th, 2007

Why is GetUp focusing on the coalitions control over the house of commons and the senate when the bigger issue is the labour stranglehold over the state and federal governments that may occur later this year. If anything the coalition should maintain a majority over the senate to allow some balance to a full labour-leadership in this country.

"GetUp! executive director Brett Solomon said the coalition had controlled both houses of parliament since the last election and that had been bad for democracy"

Isnt a Labour controlled state and federal government more damaging to democracy than state labour and a federal liberal?

What happens to democracy when the division of powers are eroded by single party control? There will be no safeguards at any level of legislature.

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Julia Weller
November 21st, 2007

As soon the election was called I accessed the AEC to see how to make sure my vote would be valid.

I knew I was enrolled as an overseas voter, so I followed instructions and mailed a postal ballot application to the Embassy in Washington as per the instructions on the website there.

I have been until this morning the 20th and with nothing arriving in todays mail called the Embassy to inquire about the papers as time is running out here due to the 2 day
holiday in the USA on the 22/23 for Thanksgiving.

I was transferred and got voice mail, so I left my message but had no return call by this afternoon so I called again. I was offered a transfer again and explained I had only got voice mail and I was really concerned that I was running out of time if my application had not been received, I was
promised a callback by 4pm. When no call back came, I went ahead and faxed another copy of a postal application and statement why I can't get a citizen to witness my signature and a copy of my passport page.

Now I am letting you know, so that if I don't get my ballot paper in time you will understand why I feel disenfranchised and that citizens abroad may be unable to exercise their right to vote.

If this is the way the Australian Embassy looks after Australian citizens, then in future I want the Embassy to acknowledge immediately the application has been received, if they are unable to return the ballot papers within a week, so citizens know that the application has not been forgotten or worse, perhaps deliberately. I was told today they only got the ballot papers Monday.

If I was able to vote in person I would, I live 5 hours drive away from the nearest city listed. I went to a considerable amount of trouble to ensure I could vote even while I was overseas, and encouraged others to as
well, now I am afraid many overseas voters not only will miss out on this election but also be removed from the rolls because they didn't vote.

If they have been outside Australia for more than 3 years they will then be ineligible to reapply to enroll until they return from overseas.

I sent a copy of this email to both leaders, but only one has replied.

Now I wait to see if the papers arrive in time for me to post them back before the deadline.

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Tess
June 7th, 2008

Bit too confusing for my liking. . .

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Peter Graham
March 16th, 2010

Your Any law passed with the intention of depriving any Australian citizen of the right to vote in any election is abhorrent and should be repudiated by all thinking people. Obviously, this law was intended to give an electoral advantage to the previous government by disenfranchising about half a million legitimate voters, who, because of purely circumstantial reasons, were temporarily unregistered. It sought to do the same to new voters and relied on their inexperience.
I ask Senators Xenophon and Fielding to vote to end this slimy and duplicitous attack on the democratic process of the country.

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centurion48
March 16th, 2010

Nearly all the comments sofar are confusing rights with responsibilities. It is the responsibility of every Australian citizen aged 18 years and over to enrol to vote. Schools help out by getting 17 year olds to register.
Would all these people who complain about not having enough time to enrol or change their enrolment details even know what the political issues are? I think not so their vote is probably wasted anyhow.
Federal and state electoral offices have very thin manning and could not cope with 500,000 last minute enrolments and changes of address - and why should they? Just because those people suddenly realised they might be fined for not voting in their enrolled electorate? Don't make out these people are worried about being disenfranchised. They are only worried about being fined for not turning up at a polling place and getting their name ticked off.
In an ideal world a change of address notification should be lodged once at the new location and all three tiers of government and their agencies would be notified but until we have an Australia Card this will not happen. Instead people will whinge because they have not complied with their responsibilities and it is easier to blame somebody else than admit you were just plain lazy.
GetUp should concentrate on real issues of importance: there are plenty of them to worry about. You should also have spoken to Electoral Office staff to get some the inaccuracies sorted out too.

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Bongos
March 16th, 2010

I agree with Centurion48 that people ought to take responsibility and enrol to vote, not be prompted by an election. Some of these prefer to consider voting as a voluntary activity like in many other countries but are compelled to act differently. However, I don't agree with the point that those not enrolling (or who choose not to vote) are any less informed or capable than those that vote at all elections, as there are plenty of dills in this country that always cast a vote without much thinking, and are we any better off because of this? And GetUp (i.e. ultimately its members) should pursue any issue it feels is important to the public interest, rather than me or you defining what is of "real importance".

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SamD
March 23rd, 2010

it's no longer possible for the public to let Senator Steve Fielding know their thoughts on this issue. As of today, Sen Fielding closed down the Have Your Say tab on his website. However, to let him know how you feel you can email him via the "Contact Us" link on the site which can be found at: http://www.stevefielding.com.au/contact/

I would encourage as many members as possible to contact him in this way as he seems to be trying very hard not to listen to the 100+ people who all supported a return to the 7 day enrollment period.

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ara
March 24th, 2010

I strongly feel that this bill should be passed so that people have a longer time at least 7 days to prepare their enrolments as is the case with most other countries. It should eevne be possible to request a free enrolment form via a free text message. I hope that Senator Fielding will do the right thing and help these crucial bills to be passed.

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centurion48
March 26th, 2010

The only people who need to enrol close to an election are those:
a. who have turned 18 within the previous fortnight,
b. who have moved house within the past month, or
c. who have just taken out Australian citizenship.
Why else would you not be enrolled at the correct address?

The AEC website has the enrolment form for online completion (plus you have to print it, sign it & post it in for authentication reasons). The online form is processed as an enrolment but is purged if the hard-copy confirmation is not received in a reasonable time. How much easier do you want it?

The electoral roll is not only used for establishing your right to vote and it is a legal responsibility to keep the detail current.

Try telling a policeman you couldn't be bothered renewing your driving licence because nobody told you six times to do it.

As I said in my previous comment in this topic, people confuse rights with responsibilities. You don't have the right to vote until you have discharged your responsibilities as an Australian citizen and enrolled.

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missingu4ever&lovingualways
March 30th, 2010

Your comment
I have suffered from mental illness for 40 years. The only people who supported me and stood by me are my family. I asked for help and I have never got it. I live in a drought stricken area and so many strong men, women and sons of farmers have taken their lives because nobody listens to our cry for help.To lose something that has been your life and part of your family history for generations is totally soul destroying and leaves you no hope for the future. When your role models, your father, your sister, your nephew and your cousins have lost hope after all the tough years it makes you struggle to be strong. They have left behind children, partners, relatives and friends who are lost and distraught and time does not heal or lessen your grief. The Government, whoever Party they are, need to listen to our cry for help.My nephew committed suicide in 2006 after looking for and seeking help. None was available to him. He didn't talk to us about it because our family had suffered so much through other tragedies in the three years before and he felt guilty for feeling the way he did. It has destroyed our family forever and nothing will ever be the same again.

Please help the other families who are going through this. Nothing will ease our pain or bring those we love back to us But please don't let other family and friends go through this. This is my prayer and hope. A death like this changes lifes forever. Please, please help us.

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missingu4ever&lovingualways
March 30th, 2010

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Rowleypark
May 19th, 2010

why would you want to vote anyway? it doesn't change anything we are only voting for middle management when the real corporate bosses of Australia who have all the power (politician's don't) stay in power...DON'T VOTE if you do it shows that they can keep going with their plan

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Eva
July 9th, 2010

Today I received an email from Get Up about ensuring people are enrolled for the next election. Thank you for that, because when I then clicked on the AEC website to verify that I was enrolled (even though I have a letter from them confirming I am) I was rather shocked, after entering my details that it then showed I was NOT enrolled, or unable to be verified!!!??? then it was only because of my persistence, that I tried something.....my street address is a person's name WITHOUT an apostrophe, HOWEVER, AEC had decided that an apostrophe was needed! so I am, in fact, enrolled to vote, but with a 'change' done to my details, by AEC!!!
I then rang the AEC in my region to tell them of their mistake, and the person I spoke to....and this is the 'norm' these days of NOT taking responsibility, told me they, the AEC take their information from the Shire. I told her that ALL my paperwork for the purchase of this property, from government departments, INCLUDING the Shire, all have my address street name WITHOUT an apostrophe!
They will, they say, change that mistake and send me an updated letter!
I will not go in to other issues that I have had with AEC and the wording of their enrolment form, too long a story, but I am pointing out just one SMALL issue in mistakes being made on such an important government form.....then I can see why many people, who say are not as persistent, or thorough, can and are then frustrated by government forms etc. and never mind that many young people feel so cynical already about how governments operate, any wonder the quoted number of people NOT enrolled is as it is.
So in my opinion what is needed is a HUGE public service campaign, similar to what Get Up are now doing, but somehow to reach those particular people who are not enrolled due to their circumstances, PLUS an education campaign about the importance of having a voice - voting, as being something worthwhile, rather than seen as another chore....however I will not hold my breath, since from reading this article it seems the major political parties do not seem to want to improve the enrolments of a section of our community.

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Greta
July 11th, 2010

You are a well-meaning group at GetUp to be highly admired. But your video was like using the very low and negative standards that the institutions of politics use. Yet, you are trying to raise a positive awareness for a positive action. When the majority of politicians join politics, I am sure they want good positive outcomes for their country. However the system of the win is always against them and they keep lowering their principles and morals just to get there to do some good things. If they do not survive usually they are the ones that would not allow the rest of their principles and morals to keep dropping millimetre by millimetre anymore; though Bob Brown seems to be the exception who has taken the place of the Democrats who were suppose to (in their originator's word) "Keep the bastards honest". If politicians from the big party do survive, usually they are prepared to lower their standards and principles to try to achieve some of the good their egos have them believing they can do. I feel that if GetUp continues to make videos that lower their morals and principles and come down to the low levels of Parliament when it sits, then over time they might not notice how far they too could lower their morals and principles. I found your video inappropriate. I hope you do not delete this because I hold GetUp in very high esteem and at one time when Mr Howard was in charge, I felt that it was the only bright star in the sky as far as Fairness and Justice went.

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Eva
July 14th, 2010

I totally agree with you. Greta! I too was not very impressed with this video. but AM most certainly a supporter of Get Up.

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Angela
July 13th, 2010

It's only compulsary to turn up, have your name crossed off the Electoral Roll and place ballot papers in the ballot box.
Checks and balance! Votes + informal ballot papers = AEC Roll.
Ensures democratic processes are not fiddled with.

Long live the pencil and ballot paper!


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Rod
July 14th, 2010

Even travelling Australia for the last two years and changing electorate my wife and I have manged to stay enrolled. It's just one more thing not to forget to do and is easy.

If you don't like our pollies or the system, vote against the sitting member in every election so we get untainted new blood in, instead of all the hacks who rely on being in safe seats.

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Kevin Rennie
July 14th, 2010

We need a very public campaign to get people enrolled before time runs out. It's probably only days away.

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Bonny
July 21st, 2010

I would like to see all people accepting benefits to be enrolled before any payment.

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Greg
July 21st, 2010

Compulsory voting is not the way to have the election of good governments. More than 50% of compulsory voters screw up their vote either on purpose, or ignorance, or other reasons. I would suggest that voting be optional so that the people that really care and follow politics can vote properly.

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DD
July 21st, 2010

Compulsory voting does not exist in Australia. The citizen is required only to attend a polling station on election day - a pre-poll station before election day - or to return postal ballot papers

This is a not unreasonable requirement. No one is forced to stand in queues or to actually even mark the paper

Far more serious is the problem of enrolment - especially first time enrolment, which could be solved by automatic enrolment through schools, universities and even through the tax and social security offices

An eighteen year old can be conscripted to fight in a war - not to be enrolled is just plain silly.

I doubt if legislation is required to reopen the enrolment process. It should be done - maybe before sundays cooking programme

It seems to me the rolls should be reopened immediately and online enrolment permitted. Checking an enrolment is very easy and if there is thought to be a problem a handwritten signature can always be taken at the polling station on the day on a separate form

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suz
July 21st, 2010

I don't understand why people leave it until an election is called before they enrol to vote.

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Sarahm
July 21st, 2010

The ATO considers a digital signature is satisfactory for any number of transactions on its website. Given the extremely long arm of the ATO I cannot imagine why the AEC doesn't think this form of security is good enough. Indeed, there is technology available now which makes voting on-line secure - why not take it further than merely enrolling to vote?

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Melody
July 21st, 2010

This issue directly affects me this time around. I am about to move house (tomorrow -- on the closing date for change of address notification!) to a new electorate, after 17 years at my current address. I've known my new address for two weeks, but I can't change my enrolment until after I've moved and can produce a document with my new address on it.

So now I don't get to vote for my new local member, and will have to vote for a member who will no longer represent me.

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anarchist
July 23rd, 2010

the whole system needs an overhaul.
the technology is now available to not only enroll electronically but vote on a weekly basis, we don't need representatives anymore with their own agendas.
additionally we should start back charging the AEC and all government departments for all the paperwork we have filled out for them. our time also has value.

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Kabweman
July 25th, 2010

Might I say a lot of what is said here is rubbish.As a NEW Australian I was encouraged to enroll for voting very soon after arrival. To say people only enrol after an election is called, says much about the people not the system. We have known that an election was due for ages it is not a surprise and there has been plenty of time to register. I suggest we have a campaign to leave registration until the day of the election and encourage people to vote early and vote often as is the case in many other "Democratic" countries.This campaingn is poorly thought out and mindless.

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democracyATwork
August 7th, 2010

Change that Counts

Greens set to be elected in Victorian Senate

The Australian Greens is set to elect a Senator in Victoria on t6he back of One nation preferences to the Liberal party ahead of the Australian labor Party.

All being equal, analysis of the 2007 Victorian Vote has shown that the Greens will receive an additional bonus value arising from a flaw in the way in which the Senate vote is counted. The distortion in the proportionality gives the Liberal Party a bonus of over 7,000 votes derived from minor parties who are excluded from the count. This inflates the Liberal Party ticket vote and when transferred to the Greens tipps them over the line and denying the labor Party a third senate seat.

Under the current rules a candidates surplus transfer value is calculated by dividing the surplus value by the number of ballot papers, disproportionately to the value of the vote. This nflated the value of the Liberal Party ticket vote which before being transferred represents only 20% of the surplus but under the AEC paper based formula the new transfer value carries 80% of the value of the surplus.

The Australian Parliament Joint Standing Committee on Electoral matters, which Melbourne Port's Micheal Danby as a member, was aware of this flaw in the system but failed to act to correct the system. ABC Electoral Analyst, Antony Green,m independently confirmed my analysis of the 2007 Victorian Senate election.

By failing to act to correct the flaw in the way the Senate vote is counted the ALP has already lost a Senate seat and the Greens are the beneficiary of Bonus votes that the system delivers at the expense of other minor parties would oppose the Greens platform.

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BatsAreBurning
August 8th, 2010

Don’t forget:
Though you are patting yourself on the back:
It may have been Howard that brought this legislation in,
However Rudd the Dud and Gillard, the knife, failed to reverse it while they were in office:
Perhaps they where to busy with, New climate tax, pink bats, and school halls.
The excuse of running out of time just before the election: is Crap, I suppose that was also there excuse about the majority of work choice they failed to reverse?
Therefore, the blame for it still being in place fairly rests with Rudd and Gillard:

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democracyATwork
August 8th, 2010

One Nation, Family First and Democratic Labor Party to elect Victoria’s First Green Senator

Analysis of the 2010 registered Victorian Senate How to Vote preference allocation indicates that the Greens, based on the 2007 Senate Election results will elect 3 Liberal, 2 ALP and one Greens Senator.

Electoral Analyst Anthony van der Craats, said that One Nation, Family First and the Democratic Labor Party unwittingly will contribute to the election of a Green Senator even though all three have preferenced the ALP before the Greens. In 2007, using the same votes, the Liberal party and the ALP both elected three Senators.

The reason why the Greens candidate is elected is due primarily to the distortion in the way in which the Senate vote is counted.

The Australian Electoral Commission, when calculating the surplus transfer value, divides a candidate’s surplus value by the number of ballot papers as opposed to the value of the vote. This has the effect of increasing the Liberal Party ticket vote which is then distributed to the Greens at an inflated value giving the Greens a bonus 7,000 votes derived from One Nation, Family First and Democratic Labor Party supporters.

By way of analogy Mr van der Craats said if we calculated the dividend of shares based on the number for shareholders as opposed to the value of shares our financial system would collapse overnight. It would not be accepted for counting money whoever this is how Senate votes are counted.

The Senate system is not proportional to the value of the vote. If we are to have a fair and accurate election system then the method of calculating the surplus value and distributing preferences needs to be changed and the system fixed

The Australian Senate system is semi-proportional only.

The identified flaw in the system was outlined to the Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters Committee in a submission made in 2008. The JSEM failed to act to correct the system.

Mr. van der Craats's analysis has been independently confirmed by ABC electoral Analysts Antony Green.

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