***This event took place on Thursday 26th February 2009***
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Is there any secure open-source method of having each eligible voter in a democracy issued a discrete userID and password via Parliament through their local electorate office, so that issues of concern may be voted on nationally, in real time, rather than up to 3 years later in the next election, by which time other more topical or usefully hip-pocket issues have taken centre stage? A government run website transparently set up for the purpose could use a Google-style ranking algorithm to rate queries and those reaching an agreed critical mass of voter concern MUST be raised and debated in parliament, where a landslide opinion one way or another could not be batted away by governments pretending they had a 'mandate' to do things most of their constituents disagreed with, even 3 years later. In short, can the early political promise of the information superhighway ever be delivered in such a non-partisan way?
Jeff
February 23rd, 2009
Hi Joe,How do you make your important issue rise above the "noise" of the internet, Presidential campaigns not withstanding.n Thanks,Jeff
Keith
February 25th, 2009
Hi Joe, can you give me some tips on how to become a politician. I feel i allready have the most important qualities required, i can lie, cheat and steal with the best of them. I wouldn't have a problem promising people all sorts of wonderful things, and then not doing them once elected. It certainly wouldn't bother my concience to earn ridiculous ammounts of money (not to mention the kickbacks) for so little work. I would also be quite prepared to stick at it until I'm 55, and then retire with a gold card, and all the perks that those stupid taxpayers give them for the rest of their lives. I am also prepared to not be accountable for anything i do, and if i do stuff up, i'll just sit quietly on the backbench and not get in anyones way. I look forward to your tips on how i can get into what must be the only job where you simply cannot lose.
friend of sustainable developmnet
February 25th, 2009
Firstly, please pass on my respect and high regard for the work of Joe. He is a great inspiration for those who care about people and making change for the better My dilemna - I am a working parent with young child who have been attending a non profit community based child care centre in the inner west. The centre has a remarkle reputuation for the beyond caring way they look after children, for over 25 years in our community. It has a waiting list of 300 children and last week we found at my an article publish in the SMH that the centre was going to be shut down to make way for the land needed for the development of the new NSW gov's Metro Link Proposal. The director of the centre had not been informed and needless to say any of the parents had been informed through official channels. There has been suggestion that there will be alternative locations suggested but when the Minister was consulted there is no idea where this will be. MY QUESTION - how does Joe suggest as a community we can stand up for our rights and demand quality transparent planning were a proper consultation process is adhered to and where we can be sure all the alternative sustainable transport developments are considered? Surely the nuturing loving learning environment of our kindy is just as important as getting people to A to B?
phildeerhound
February 25th, 2009
Governments worldwide use similar tactics, whereby they can appear to be carrying out a particular action but in fact are doing the exact opposite
A common method in State and local politics in my state of NSW is to pass legislation and then fail to enforce it, indeed actually even refuse to enforce it when called to order. In this way the government or local authority not only can "claim" to be doing something, but instead can actually "block anything being done". They do it a lot - in some authorities it seems to be their main activity. It's unconstitutional but they simply don't care. They see themselves as "above" their own legal code.
I have found no successful way of dealing with this problem. There is no inexpensive method that I have come across whereby a statutory authority can be forced to carry out any action in accordance with its responsibilities. Writs such as "mandamus" are extremely expensive here.
In my state this situation is made even worse by the reality so often experienced, that the anti corruption structures and departments and ombudsman services seem all too much aimed at protecting the government bodies, rather than forcing them to take the appropriate action, enforce the appropriate rules, and do their job. The anti-corruption authorities, through inaction, are in much of the actual corruption up to their scrawny necks, determining which matters they will examine and which they will ignore. Pass the black bag someone!
Thus society is increasingly being reduced to a structure of bullying and bribery. You bribe or bully someone in authority to do their job (or not do it) or in the case of dealing directly with a particular opponent, you physically threaten them and they threaten you whilst Government authorities stand aside and do nothing to remove the problem by enforcing the relevant legislation.
Any ideas.
My own son had an interesting comment on all this that referred to the fact that the first settlers in NSW were largely convicts. He echoed the usual comment that my state is the way it is because of the kind of people who started it.
"You mean convicts?"
"No" he said "people who got caught"
So how do we catch them again?
Phildeerhound
February 25th, 2009
You will no doubt have heard a great deal about the tragic bush fires in Victoria
Up to now my state of NSW has been spared by having had better weather - but we face a problem in that hazard reduction is dominated by our National Parks and Wildlife Service, a department that is generally vehemently opposed to hazard reduction through either controlled burning or manual clearance
The courageous members of our fire service, many of them volunteers, are themselves placed in extreme danger because of this policy. Local residents in bush fire prone zones are themselves placed in incredible danger, often for three or months each year. We cannot even get proper fire breaks, when we do get one the Parks allow it to grow back
The National Parks Service refer to "conservation and habitat" as their reasons for enforcing their anti hazard reduction policy under the mistaken assumption that incinerating live every living thing in an area is somehow better than protecting it as a controlled clearance is made - and indeed through that controlled clearance
Thus in my area, it is not only the people that are threatened it is the wildlife in my neighbourhood - the goannas, monitors and possums, the wallabies, the diamond python on my fence, the tawny frogmouths that nest in my garden, all of us threatened by a stupid and arrogant policy
How can we get this matter of hazard reduction into the hands of the emergency services and out of the hands of The National Parks and Wildlife Service? It is no exaggeration to say that as in Victoria lives are at stake.
In my area it is fifteen years since the last bushfire. The cycle is normally between eight and eleven years. Right now the fuel build up on the ground is massive. One spark, one lightning strike is all it would take to give NSW its first Maryville tragedy
Seb
February 25th, 2009
Hi Joe. Right now Doritos are running an ad campaign in Australia asking viewers to create their own ads, with the winning entry broadcast on TV and winning $20,000 in the process. The Dean campaign stood out like a beacon in 2004. But in a world where everyone is experimenting with the open source model - including big brands with big bucks - what's the best example you've seen that REALLY puts a campaign in the hands of its supporters?
Emma
February 26th, 2009
Can you summarise the key factors that make e-activism or online networking successful.
How participatory is it really - in terms of a participatory democracy model?
What advice would you give local activist groups or budding politicians trying to establish online networks on how to go about this?
Craig Pendergast
February 26th, 2009
Do you believe that Obama's win was indeed "historic" and "grassroots" in light of: (a) nearly double the amount of political donation compared to his rival McCain (b) a relatively close election result and (c) his choice of political nominees (Timothy Geithner, Larry Summers, Robert Gates)?
honest john
February 26th, 2009
two questions do you think israel should be declared a terrorist state and when do you think gaza holocaust denying be a criminal offence?
archie Solar Ball
March 2nd, 2009
Solar energy is so much the answer to global warming via pollution, "The New Inventors" ABC,s wed.night program showing new Aussie inventions,in ep.38 Oct.2005 showed "THE SUNBALL" a unit the size of a basketball, located on your roof it could POWER YOUR WHOLE HOUSE! It "Disappeared" on John Howard,s watch,not surprising perhaps given his slavery to the BIG MINERS,but with global warming problems growing by the day,TIME TO find it again!
Philde
April 10th, 2009
Power my whole house - I don't think so Archie. I need a totally reliable supply of around 20kwh per day - most of it in the hours of darkness when there is no sun to power any solar device.
I would actually like a little more than that, but I do power down and switch off lighting as much as possible
My level of use is not unusual, in fact it conforms with the average household
Amounts of four to five kwh are totally useless to me. In fact they are effectively the same as power outages.
It seems to me that without huge generator investment cost, backed up by equally huge battery backup costs, the best I could hope for would be to be able to run garden lighting during the day
And at the moment I responsibly turn that off - even at night - except to illuminate a walk up a long drive on which snakes are sometimes found and with large spider webs nightly across it
Solar power dreams seem all too often the dreams of lonely single people who may well live lives that require only one flourescent light. But family life simply is not like that. Single people live more outside their homes - enjoying the benefits of power used elsewhere and paid for by other people - such as when one goes to the theatre or a cinema or a pub or club.
When one has a family such visits become extremely expensive, as does transportation. That is why we need more power at home - we live there rather than use it as a "cheap hotel"
honest john
April 10th, 2009
why are british migrants pension and health benifits subsidised by aussie taxpayers while many indigenous have sub-standard education and health services.
Philde
April 10th, 2009
Reciprocal arrangements, HJ. The allocation of pensions for migrants is in fact quite complex and very strongly regulated. I will be able to draw a pension here as an Australian citizen but I will not be able to simultaneously receive the basic British pension. Those receiving an overseas component only receive a compulsory self funded superannuation component from their birth country - where this was a feature of the home pension system - not the basic pension.
If you travel to the UK and become ill you will receive health services under the British National Health system from the moment of landing.
The substandard education and health services you refer to are indeed a disgrace. But fixing this requires a two way action program. Indigenous people are extremely badly represented. It is to be hoped that a new generation of Aboriginal people who manage to pick their way through the system to degree and doctorate level will help fix this. These are the idealistic and ambitious people we most need to fund. A person entering University in 2009 will hold a degree by the end of 2012 or 2013 and more important will have the intellectual tools needed to put matters to right
In the mean time have you booked yourself into TAFE or University for the current year or do you already hold such qualifications? By 2013 you too could be such a person.
I'd take action now before we get another Liberal government - in a decade or so
honest john
April 11th, 2009
this pommy bastard walks into a pub in alice spings and asks this blackfella " can i borrow 10 bob, mate?". the blackfella says "what do you want 10 bob for?" , the pommy bastard says "i want to go back to the UK", the blackfella says "heres 10 bucks now take 9 of your fuckin mates with you, arsehole"
Philde
April 11th, 2009
Perhaps a literacy or anger management course might be a good start.
Nuff said - end of that dialogue
Jack O\'neil
July 29th, 2009
Dear Getup Members
Regardless of the importance of this issue, there is no more serious issue facing all Australians at this point in time than that of the slow POISONING of every man, woman and child for PROFIT and POPULATION REDUCTION. For those who may find this difficult to comprehend, with respect, your Brain and Body has possibly been drip-fed this most toxic and poisonous Medication known to mankind, for several years. This deliberate Act has finally come back to Bite Australia's Economy via Export Trade. Please do your research. Also see.
Is Australia to be Sold-Out to the Communist NWO by Rudd? See the Film!
Will Australia lose her Sovereignty and Constitution becoming enslaved to the Criminal Psychopathic Globalists?
UK politician, columnist and policy adviser to Mrs Thatcher, Lord Monckton Nobel Prize Winner, says the Copenhagen Treaty will implement ‘World Government’ and take away the National Sovereignty of every Nation that signs up and there is no provision for voting, ballots or democracy anywhere in the treaty. Here’s part of Lord Monckton’s recent speech in the US: http://climaterealists.com/index.php?id=4197&linkbox=true&position=1
However, the idea that PM Kevin Rudd will actually sign up Australia to “world government’ without actually announcing it, to me is bizarre and deceitful – in fact you could call it treason and fraud if such a profound change was done without the consent of the people. Obviously a world government would require a taxation base. So MPs, what else will it require? What laws will it impose? What happens to our existing laws?
Lord Monckton says international technical panels will have the right to directly intervene in individual countries over the head of governments we elect. How does this work?
Again, are there any MPs out there who know something about this? Perhaps Kevin Rudd’s office might like to inform us?
VOTE NO TO AUSTRALIA SIGNING ANY TREATY IN COPENHAGEN See Lord Monckton’s Film
February 23rd, 2009
Is there any secure open-source method of having each eligible voter in a democracy issued a discrete userID and password via Parliament through their local electorate office, so that issues of concern may be voted on nationally, in real time, rather than up to 3 years later in the next election, by which time other more topical or usefully hip-pocket issues have taken centre stage? A government run website transparently set up for the purpose could use a Google-style ranking algorithm to rate queries and those reaching an agreed critical mass of voter concern MUST be raised and debated in parliament, where a landslide opinion one way or another could not be batted away by governments pretending they had a 'mandate' to do things most of their constituents disagreed with, even 3 years later. In short, can the early political promise of the information superhighway ever be delivered in such a non-partisan way?